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Old 7th December 2017, 12:21 AM
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Default F800 gs or tiger 800 xc or ktm 990 adv

Hi all
Have an empty garage at the moment, and am trying to decide on the next bike.

I think i have narrowed it to a midsize upright adventure style bike, had considered the ktm 690 e but my riding is 85% road 15% gravel/offroad.

So i am thinking

1 bmw f800 gs
2 triumph tiger 800 xc
3 ktm 990 adv.

Budget around 5k.
Any thoughts or opinions?
Africa twin would be a contender to, but new model to expensive still.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 7th December 2017, 12:28 AM
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BMW would have better backup , better resale
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Old 7th December 2017, 01:44 AM
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Honda cb500x with rally raid upgrade pack
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Old 7th December 2017, 03:09 AM
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1....Triumph tiger 800 xc but you wont get an XC for 5 grand
2....Ktm 990 adv
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Old 7th December 2017, 08:09 AM
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I'd go for the triumph. Thinking of changing the bmr for one next year.
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Old 7th December 2017, 09:12 AM
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I've an 800GS at the moment and love it. I wasn't pushed about the Triumph personally. KTM looks nice, but I've never tried one.
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Old 7th December 2017, 03:47 PM
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Tiger all the way
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Old 7th December 2017, 04:51 PM
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I've had an F800GS and a Tiger 800 and I can't recommend the Tiger 800 highly enough... Best bike I've had so far.

I've currently got a '16 R1200GS and I still miss the Tiger at times... had much more character, more fun bike, its like a tall Street Triple (I had one of those too).

I found the F800GS to be a bit boring on the road, and wasn't doing any off road with it as I couldn't find anywhere to bring it.

I wouldn't get the 990 unless you have a degree in (roadside) mechanical engineering. If you're extremely handy with your tools and intend to do a majority of off road then go for the 990.
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Old 7th December 2017, 04:51 PM
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Fuck KTM I say - 'Keeps Taking Money'!
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Old 7th December 2017, 05:55 PM
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Another vote for the Tiger.
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Old 7th December 2017, 09:11 PM
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Another Tiger 800 fan here, very comfortable bike, haven’t had mine off road (yet!), but won’t be parting with this bike for a while.
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Old 7th December 2017, 11:10 PM
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Cheers boys, thanks for that, have never rode the tiger, so wasnt sure, will try get a spin on one in the new year.
Hired a 800gs in spain a few years back and enjoyed it, just felt it a bit unstable at motorway speed two up, that was compared to my 1150gs anyway.
Never rode a 990 either but kinda liked the look of them,dont like the idea of fixing it all the time tho.
Looks like tiger might get the nod😀
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Old 8th December 2017, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: F800 gs or tiger 800 xc or ktm 990 adv

Originally Posted by BigDiggity

I wouldn't get the 990 unless you have a degree in (roadside) mechanical engineering. If you're extremely handy with your tools and intend to do a majority of off road then go for the 990.
Can you elaborate on this?

I have a 990 and it's got plenty of faults such as fueling, economy and awkwardness servicing but I think it's the best Road bike I've had.

Why do you say you need a degree in mechanical engineering?
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Old 8th December 2017, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: F800 gs or tiger 800 xc or ktm 990 adv

Originally Posted by Error52 View Post
Can you elaborate on this?

I have a 990 and it's got plenty of faults such as fueling, economy and awkwardness servicing but I think it's the best Road bike I've had.

Why do you say you need a degree in mechanical engineering?
Me too, had a few KTMs without issue
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Old 8th December 2017, 09:48 AM
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Tiger. Way better engine.
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Old 8th December 2017, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Error52 View Post
Can you elaborate on this?

I have a 990 and it's got plenty of faults such as fueling, economy and awkwardness servicing but I think it's the best Road bike I've had.

Why do you say you need a degree in mechanical engineering?
The awkwardness in servicing you mention was one item I was referencing, also the regular intervals (4500/9000 miles), my cousin had one that developed:
- a problem where it would sometimes shut off when switching from 4th to 5th gear.
- clutch slave cylinder failure
- fault with the oxygen sensor was causing the engine to shut down in certain circumstance.
- various oil leaks (that concluded plenty of our spins prematurely )

I think with the exception of the clutch slave cylinder (which affects all models) it's the luck of the draw as to whether you'll see any other issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an amazing bike, if I ever move somewhere with the opportunity to do regular off road, I'd definitely look at one.
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Old 8th December 2017, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: F800 gs or tiger 800 xc or ktm 990 adv

Originally Posted by BigDiggity View Post
I wouldn't get the 990 unless you have a degree in (roadside) mechanical engineering. If you're extremely handy with your tools and intend to do a majority of off road then go for the 990.
I put big mileage on my 990SM and the only thing that ever went wrong with it was the reg/rec blew and sure that's happened to me with every single Honda I've ever owned.

If you keep on top of your servicing, the majority of which can be done at home, you'll be reet and if a ham-fisted spanner monkey like me can manage not to make a balls of things, anyone can do it.

For things like fueling, drop it into Gary in mototuning and he'll give you back a fully sorted bike. He also knows his KTMs as does Pento and the boys in RPM, so any bigger jobs can be handled by them.

I was wary of buying a KTM given the viewpoint you have and that seems to be the shared consensus, but it ended up being one of the most reliable bikes I've ever owned.
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Old 8th December 2017, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: F800 gs or tiger 800 xc or ktm 990 adv

Originally Posted by BigDiggity View Post
The awkwardness in servicing you mention was one item I was referencing, also the regular intervals (4500/9000 miles), my cousin had one that developed:
- a problem where it would sometimes shut off when switching from 4th to 5th gear.
- clutch slave cylinder failure
- fault with the oxygen sensor was causing the engine to shut down in certain circumstance.
- various oil leaks (that concluded plenty of our spins prematurely )

I think with the exception of the clutch slave cylinder (which affects all models) it's the luck of the draw as to whether you'll see any other issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an amazing bike, if I ever move somewhere with the opportunity to do regular off road, I'd definitely look at one.
Fair enough

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