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What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

Hello,

I'm looking for a place where I can walk in and buy wheel bearing kits without ordering/waiting. The only place I know is Cotters and their web page says "available 2-3 days". I could order from them or from eBay, but it'd be nice to get it faster.

Thank you.
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

https://www.efox.ie/

http://www.bearingwarehouse.ie/
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

I doubt any bike shops here "stock" bearing kits. All would have to be ordered.

However, as above, a bearing specialist will get you the bearings you need if you look up the sizes for your sepcific bike.
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Cotters have replaced my bearings on the spot, so I assume they have a stock.

They must have someone near by too; I can't seem them letting someone drive away with shot bearings when they do the tyres.
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

Thanks guys.

Strangely, nearly all bearing kits on eBay say CBF 600 2004-2010. (mine is from 2011)
Cotters' web page is the same. If I select 2010, they do have kits. If I select 2011 they don't.
However, the bike hasn't changed between 2010 and 2011 AFAIK.

2011 CBF 600 SA - no products
https://www.cottermc.com/parts/wheel...0-s-abs-762768

2010 CBF 600 SA - bearing kits
https://www.cottermc.com/parts/wheel...0-s-abs-762767

Same all over eBay...

What am I missing?
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Phone..... call talk to a human
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I will... ..I actually asked two of the eBay sellers (one about bearings and one about cush drive rubbers). They genuinely seem to think they don't have parts for 2011 bikes. On a FB group I was informed it's all the same bearings/rubbers throughout all model years. Will have to ask Cotters too apparently, but there seems to be a general confusion about this model out there.
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What am I missing?
A great opportunity to start selling wheel bearing kits for the 2011 CBF600.
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CBF 600 2004-2010. (mine is from 2011)...
Does it need really need new wheel bearings? How much mileage has it done?


As others have said, you are better off getting good quality bearings
from an industrial supplier. Most kits come with Chinese bearings.

Top quality Japanese (Koyo, NTN, NSK) bearings will work out
just as cheap if you pay industrial or agri prices.

CBF600xx and several other CBR, CBF 600, 900, 1000 and 1100 models
use:

Front
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 20X45X12 91052MBWE11
OIL SEAL, 28X47.2X7 (ARAI) 91252MC4013

Rear
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6204UU 91052MAE004
DUST SEAL, 30X47X7.5 91253MAE003

Sprocket carrier
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6322 91051MAS003
DUST SEAL, 30X56X7.5

You should find all of the bearings and most of the seals
at any good bearing supplier.

If possible, bring the old bearings and seals with you.
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Does it need really need new wheel bearings? How much mileage has it done?


As others have said, you are better off getting good quality bearings
from an industrial supplier. Most kits come with Chinese bearings.

Top quality Japanese (Koyo, NTN, NSK) bearings will work out
just as cheap if you pay industrial or agri prices.

CBF600xx and several other CBR, CBF 600, 900, 1000 and 1100 models
use:

Front
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 20X45X12 91052MBWE11
OIL SEAL, 28X47.2X7 (ARAI) 91252MC4013

Rear
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6204UU 91052MAE004
DUST SEAL, 30X47X7.5 91253MAE003

Sprocket carrier
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6322 91051MAS003
DUST SEAL, 30X56X7.5

You should find all of the bearings and most of the seals
at any good bearing supplier.

If possible, bring the old bearings and seals with you.
Thank you for the details! Yes, I was eyeing with this Koyo kit on eBay, but this as well excludes 2011+
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBF...sAAOSwhQtao-ms

As far as I can tell it could use new wheel bearings as I can feel some movement in the wheel when doing the recommended test. Mileage per clock is approx 38k. I'm replacing the chain & sprockets and I thought this would be a good opportunity to replace the bearings at the same time.
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

Lots of bearings in stock apparently:
https://megabikes.ie/wheel-bearings
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Thank you for the details! Yes, I was eyeing with this Koyo kit on eBay, but this as well excludes 2011+
IMO, Koyo bearings are the best on the market. It seems unlikely that
Honda have changed the bearing size from 2010 to 2011, but it is
possible. Wemoto list the rear bearing for 2011 as 20mm x 47mm x 14mm.
This is the size of a 6204 bearing. A single or double sealed 6204 should be
a good fit. Something like 6204-2RS-C3 would be a good match. If in doubt,
check the markings on the edge of the old bearing.

My Suzuki Bandit takes the same size rear wheel bearing. I fitted
a pair of SKF 6204RSC3 from Fox in Tullamore.
https://www.bearingsonline.ie/index....29&search=6204
Bulgarian instead of Japanese - they didn't have Koyo in stock.
They are still fine after one year of use.



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As far as I can tell it could use new wheel bearings as I can feel some movement in the wheel when doing the recommended test.
There is a tiny amount of clearance in the bearing. On average C3 have
slightly more than CN (normal or standard). You may just about be able
to detect this at the wheel rim, even if the bearings are ok.

Quote:
Mileage per clock is approx 38k. I'm replacing the chain & sprockets and I thought this would be a good opportunity to replace the bearings at the same time.
38,000 miles is great mileage for a chain. I would expect wheel bearings
to last longer. If it is 38,000km, that is a typical life for a well maintained
chain, but the bearings should still be good unless you have to cross
a river on the daily commute.

Bearings are cheap and there is no harm in changing them, but
it would be a shame to remove perfectly good Japanese bearings
and replace them with Chinese ones from a kit. Last time I looked,
All Balls and Wemoto (Slinky Glide) kits came with KML bearings.
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

Take out the old ones,go to a bearing supplier
chuck them on the counter,ask the bloke for two of them
go home,fit them.
You'd be done and dusted in half the time you've been arseing about here.
Why do young lads insist on making a meal out of every little job
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Any bearing supplier will have them on the shelf. If you pop them out and have them in your hand you’ll have them over the counter straight away. They are not special sizes. Quick as
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Yup .local bearing suppliers , farmers co ops etc will have em .quite a common size
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Had a problem with a Jap import CBR 250 long time ago.
Couldn't get seals to size.
PTFE tape is great stuff.

Don't remember a problem with bearings.
Got them in a 'bearing shop'
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IMO, Koyo bearings are the best on the market. It seems unlikely that
Honda have changed the bearing size from 2010 to 2011, but it is
possible. Wemoto list the rear bearing for 2011 as 20mm x 47mm x 14mm.
This is the size of a 6204 bearing. A single or double sealed 6204 should be
a good fit. Something like 6204-2RS-C3 would be a good match. If in doubt,
check the markings on the edge of the old bearing.

My Suzuki Bandit takes the same size rear wheel bearing. I fitted
a pair of SKF 6204RSC3 from Fox in Tullamore.
https://www.bearingsonline.ie/index....29&search=6204
Bulgarian instead of Japanese - they didn't have Koyo in stock.
They are still fine after one year of use.





There is a tiny amount of clearance in the bearing. On average C3 have
slightly more than CN (normal or standard). You may just about be able
to detect this at the wheel rim, even if the bearings are ok.



38,000 miles is great mileage for a chain. I would expect wheel bearings
to last longer. If it is 38,000km, that is a typical life for a well maintained
chain, but the bearings should still be good unless you have to cross
a river on the daily commute.

Bearings are cheap and there is no harm in changing them, but
it would be a shame to remove perfectly good Japanese bearings
and replace them with Chinese ones from a kit. Last time I looked,
All Balls and Wemoto (Slinky Glide) kits came with KML bearings.
Thank you for the very valuable advice!
In terms of bearing movement - due to lack of experience - I'm going by YouTube videos like DelBoy's garage, etc... In those videos they have similar tiny bit of movement when they say the bearing is gone. When they replaced the bearings and do the same test, grabbing/moving the wheel seems like grabbing/moving the frame, so very solid. Mine is more like the starting point in those videos. Very tiny bit of movement, like say 1mm relative to the axis (very hard to tell though), but still more than what I see when it's fixed in the videos.
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Take out the old ones,go to a bearing supplier
chuck them on the counter,ask the bloke for two of them
go home,fit them.
You'd be done and dusted in half the time you've been arseing about here.
Why do young lads insist on making a meal out of every little job
Thank you. I'm commuting to work with the bike, so I'm only prepared to take it apart when it's a sunny Saturday morning and the new bearings are in my hand. By Monday morning I need the new ones in place. That's why I research it online before making a move.
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Re: What shops sell wheel bearing kits in Dublin?

Thanks everyone. Based on the above I think the safest for me is to get the Koyo set, regardless what the seller thinks it fits, take the wheel apart and check the engravings on the old bearings just before trying to install the new ones. This way I can still back out at the last second should I have to :)
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Thank you for the very valuable advice!
In terms of bearing movement - due to lack of experience - I'm going by YouTube videos like DelBoy's garage, etc... In those videos they have similar tiny bit of movement when they say the bearing is gone. When they replaced the bearings and do the same test, grabbing/moving the wheel seems like grabbing/moving the frame, so very solid. Mine is more like the starting point in those videos. Very tiny bit of movement, like say 1mm relative to the axis (very hard to tell though), but still more than what I see when it's fixed in the videos.

You'd do well to ignore that DelBollox twat - he's a clown that thinks he knows it all, but is a bluffer. He also deletes constructive criticism comments from all his vids, and just leaves those who know no better & kiss his arse
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Thanks everyone. Based on the above I think the safest for me is to get the Koyo set, regardless what the seller thinks it fits, take the wheel apart and check the engravings on the old bearings just before trying to install the new ones. This way I can still back out at the last second should I have to :)
Be careful, it's not as easy as you'd be led to believe to pull out at the last second

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You'd do well to ignore that DelBollox twat - he's a clown that thinks he knows it all, but is a bluffer. He also deletes constructive criticism comments from all his vids, and just leaves those who know no better & kiss his arse
I didn't know that.

The service manual says: "Hold the swingarm and move the rear wheel side- ways with force to see if the wheel bearings are worn."

This is a bit tangible as it doesn't state how much movement is normal, so I need some sort of visual reference / supplemental material to pick up the necessary skills to judge my situation. So far all videos from all sources had no movement whatsoever after replacing the bearings, so that's what I thought is the norm. Is it not?
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This is a bit tangible as it doesn't state how much movement is normal...
You should expect to find little or no play at the wheel
rim. Anything more than a small fraction of a mm is excessive.
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Thank you. Well, I'll have to gather a bit more reference material to decide if it's a small enough fraction or not :) I'll pick these skills up sooner or later...
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Yup .local bearing suppliers , farmers co ops etc will have em .quite a common size

Would you trust a bog slasher to give you the right bearing? Might be alright for a John Deere but a gsxr, zxr, cbr...?
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Would you trust a bog slasher to give you the right bearing? Might be alright for a John Deere but a gsxr, zxr, cbr...?
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BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6204UU 91052MAE004
DUST SEAL, 30X47X7.5 91253MAE003

Sprocket carrier
BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6322 91051MAS003
DUST SEAL, 30X56X7.5
I just got around dealing with this. Did not hurry as it's not 100% clear the play in the wheel justifies the replacement - decided to do it anyways.

I just ordered this kit:

2 x KOYO 6204 2RS CN Bearing
1 x KOYO 63/22 2RS CN Bearing
1 x 30mm x 47mm 8mm TC Nitrile Rotary Oil Seal
1 x 30mm x 56mm 8mm TC Nitrile Rotary Oil Seal

Based on the comments the bearings seem to be a good match.
However, the seals are x8mm instead of x7.5mm.
Should I try to keep the original seals then or the x8mm ones will work fine?
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Seal should be ok, unless its held in by a circlip..which i doubt..
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