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Recutting threads on an axle

This is part of my rear wheel axle assembly. The threads are badly worn, and only barely gripping. Whats the best way to approach fixing this? I'll assume that it could be recut if I could get hold of a suitable Die (its about 15mm). Any suggestions for someone (north Dublin city/county) who could do it for me?
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

You could get a thread file and dress them up,can be quite effective and itís not difficult to do,just laborious. Replace the nut with a new one
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Up until now, I never knew they existed!

The thread is quite fine, which makes me think that I'd easily damage it with a file.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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You could get a thread file and dress them up,can be quite effective and it’s not difficult to do,just laborious. Replace the nut with a new one
Thread files don't add metal to threads.

The axle doesn't look too bad, but the nut looks fukd. Just try a new nut and it might be fine.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

As mentioned by DavyH a thread file would sort it out, I've used them a few times on damaged truck/bus axle threads.

Other option is buy a second hand axle and save all the assing about, if it's the nt400 in your details, there's an axle for 10 quid below....

http://bikebreakers.ie/honda-used-pa...rear-axle.html
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

I'd try the new nut. Cheap and will probably fix it
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Up until now, I never knew they existed!

The thread is quite fine, which makes me think that I'd easily damage it with a file.
As long as you use the correct pitch on the file you will be fine. It doesnít remove a huge amount of material and thatís why I say itís laborious. It takes quite a lot of time to clean up all the damage good enough to take the nut. Thereís more control over whatís being removed than you will have with a die which will cut material away in order to chase the thread
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Thread files don't add metal to threads.

The axle doesn't look too bad, but the nut looks fukd. Just try a new nut and it might be fine.
So the nut is fucked...after being on that axle,and your saying just stick another nut on it without cleaning the threads

Great advice there Jockser
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Thanks very much for the help. I'll try to find a file and a new nut. Its true that the nut is the part with the most wear, so I might get away with it.

Its not from my Bros/NT400, and a replacement will be expensive.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Thanks very much for the help. I'll try to find a file and a new nut. Its true that the nut is the part with the most wear, so I might get away with it.

Its not from my Bros/NT400, and a replacement will be expensive.
The first thread and the last 3 look to be flattened off,may be the angle of the picture but the others show good. If thereís any damage on them you destroy the new nut. If thatís the route youíre going get the file and sort out whatís damaged or youíre wasting time and money. The file will have several thread pitches and will be a handy tool to have. Iíve cleaned up threads on crankshafts with a file and made them serviceable so Iím sure you can make it work
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Op, don't go near that thread with a fucking file!!..Fookin bolloxing & bad advice given!!! Think about it??? A worn thread and you're being told to take a file to it??? Ffs...

Get correct replacement parts and refit!! This is a wheel axle assembly, not a shopping basket bracket!! Critical load bearing assembly you are dealing with.

Take on that repair and send a lad on his way on his bike and that wheel locks up, a wheel axle shifts because of load transfer and you have a world of pain to deal with. Do you really need that on your head??

Find suitable replacement parts, re-fit correctly including correct torque up or walk away from the thing. Don't be responsible of what could go wrong!!
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Originally Posted by DavyH
So the nut is fucked...after being on that axle,and your saying just stick another nut on it without cleaning the threads

Great advice there Jockser
Why would you want to remove threads? 'cos that's exactly what you're doing with a thread file. The clue is in the name. It's a fucking file for removing metal.
Fuck me you're clueless
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

thread files are handy for repairing threads that have been cross threaded or impact damaged but only on non critical components, not an axle, imo the thread on that axle looks ok, get a new nut as has already been said and see how it spins on, unless its loose on the thread and cant be tightened properly i dont see the problem.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Problem with that moss that nobody will see the problem but a torque wrench will upon final tighten up. Don't torque up and you have the world of opinion +1 on the definition of what is tight with said nut and corresponding axle. Anyones guess. Do so on a part that's showing wear and you're a knats willy away from stripping thread. The torque value becomes meaningless.

New nut?? No, not advised. Particularly on fine thread, the new nut, the sharper cut thread of the two bonding surfaces where again snug up, crack with torque and the lesser of the threads available that being on the axle will struggle, more likely strip the thing. Again not advised. Critical assembly the wheel, take on a fix with that and you risk sending a lad down the road or worse because of a questionable home fix job with a "known" worn axle thread.

Best replace with parts that are new or good condition second hand. Op's call.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

fair enough, best option is probably to replace both, I was just saying that if it fitted well and torqued up properly I personally would be ok with it but thats just my opinion. Sometimes its not possible to get replacements especially on older machinery but i do get the point , and agree, that its a critical component and should be treated as such.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Why would you want to remove threads? 'cos that's exactly what you're doing with a thread file. The clue is in the name. It's a fucking file for removing metal.
Fuck me you're clueless
Yeah you are,stick a new nut on she be grand

Gobshite.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Op, don't go near that thread with a fucking file!!..Fookin bolloxing & bad advice given!!! Think about it??? A worn thread and you're being told to take a file to it??? Ffs...

Get correct replacement parts and refit!! This is a wheel axle assembly, not a shopping basket bracket!! Critical load bearing assembly you are dealing with.

Take on that repair and send a lad on his way on his bike and that wheel locks up, a wheel axle shifts because of load transfer and you have a world of pain to deal with. Do you really need that on your head??

Find suitable replacement parts, re-fit correctly including correct torque up or walk away from the thing. Don't be responsible of what could go wrong!!
Sorry but what the fuck are you shitting on about...the first thread is slightly flattened,thatís why all the threads on the nut are fucked. Clean the threads with the file,thatís what the tool was designed to do. Obviously buying new is a better option,IF the parts are available.

I dunno some fucking bullshit going on here lately,fucking no nothing know it alls.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Yeah you are,stick a new nut on she be grand

Gobshite.
The only gobshite on this thread is you...

File a worn thread??.....not only stupid advice but downright fucking dangerous.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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The only gobshite on this thread is you...

File a worn thread??.....not only stupid advice but downright fucking dangerous.
No,I think itís better advice than Ďstick a nut on ití. And if it works on crankshafts,bus and truck axles I think we will all survive to see another day.
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Sorry but what the fuck are you shitting on about...the first thread is slightly flattened,thatís why all the threads on the nut are fucked. Clean the threads with the file,thatís what the tool was designed to do. Obviously buying new is a better option,IF the parts are available.

I dunno some fucking bullshit going on here lately,fucking no nothing know it alls.
You are talking through your hole lad. Giving advice when you no fucking clue what you are talking about and then get snotty about it.

Continue and please amuse us all. I would'nt let you near me nippers lego, you might put something in your mouth.....
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No,I think itís better advice than Ďstick a nut on ití. And if it works on crankshafts,bus and truck axles I think we will all survive to see another day.
Ignorance is bliss...and you compare this chankshaft bullshit to the axle of a bike. A clown!
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

Everyone can go round advising to buy new parts,itís not always an option. Also some tools exist to rectify problems such as this,or they wouldnít exist???
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More horseshite.. you haven't a clue lad....
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Ignorance is bliss...and you compare this chankshaft bullshit to the axle of a bike. A clown!
How so? Explain yourself highhorse? The fact is if itís cleaned correctly youíll know because you can torque it. No one actually mentioned the treads being worn as such,they are damaged. Only slightly by the looks of it
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More horseshite.. you haven't a clue lad....


Course I donít
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Course I donít
Finally......

Now can i have me rice crispies in peace..

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Finally......

Now can i have me rice crispies in peace..

Just make sure they snap crackle and pop or theyíre not fit for use
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Just make sure they snap crackle and pop or theyíre not fit for use
Fook awfffff....
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Fook awfffff....
Same to you, shite stirrer
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Re: Recutting threads on an axle

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Same to you, shite stirrer
Shite stirrer my [email protected],

Read the fucking thread again, clueless and bad advise giving in the workshop section......not only bad advise but dangerous advise.

But you keep coming with it....don't let me stop ya. It's kind of amusing now.....
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