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Old 23rd January 2019, 08:44 PM
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Went to the UK 3 months ago to get a bike. Did the deal on the phone and got £500 off, and he picked me up from the airport which was a hour away. Payed a deposited of £400 and he told me that if when I got there and was not happy with the bike I get the money back and he would run me back the airport. The bike was FULLY serviced and ready to go. When I asked he said it is a buyers market in the UK right now. My mate went over a month later to a different shop and things were just the same. This dealer payed for his taxi from the airport.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by xrv92
Went to the UK 3 months ago to get a bike. Did the deal on the phone and got £500 off, and he picked me up from the airport which was a hour away. Payed a deposited of £400 and he told me that if when I got there and was not happy with the bike I get the money back and he would run me back the airport. The bike was FULLY serviced and ready to go. When I asked he said it is a buyers market in the UK right now. My mate went over a month later to a different shop and things were just the same. This dealer payed for his taxi from the airport.
Wonder if brexit and the fear of exports drying up has shifted dealers willingness to deal..
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Old 24th January 2019, 10:00 AM
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Have bought a few bikes and cars in UK, most of the dealers make money off finance deals and would prefer to sell it locally, so don't expect any leeway. Once the sun's out the amount of bikes sold there is astronomical, so they have no issue keeping it. The last thing that will impress them into a discount is an adverts.ie/donedeal offer/attitude.
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Old 24th January 2019, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GoTilUBlow
Have bought a few bikes and cars in UK, most of the dealers make money off finance deals and would prefer to sell it locally, so don't expect any leeway. Once the sun's out the amount of bikes sold there is astronomical, so they have no issue keeping it. The last thing that will impress them into a discount is an adverts.ie/donedeal offer/attitude.
I remember year back all the big shops would off helmets/clothing as part of an incentive package. Maybe that could be done.
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Old 24th January 2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by discoblade
I did think that the "you'll never see me again" argument might help...

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience?
I've said that before but add the following at the end

"you'll never see me again but cover me to Holyhead"
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Old 28th January 2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by xrv92
Went to the UK 3 months ago to get a bike. Did the deal on the phone and got £500 off, and he picked me up from the airport which was a hour away. Payed a deposited of £400 and he told me that if when I got there and was not happy with the bike I get the money back and he would run me back the airport. The bike was FULLY serviced and ready to go. When I asked he said it is a buyers market in the UK right now. My mate went over a month later to a different shop and things were just the same. This dealer payed for his taxi from the airport.
What dealer was that?
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Old 28th January 2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xrv92
Went to the UK 3 months ago to get a bike. Did the deal on the phone and got £500 off, and he picked me up from the airport which was a hour away. Payed a deposited of £400 and he told me that if when I got there and was not happy with the bike I get the money back and he would run me back the airport. The bike was FULLY serviced and ready to go. When I asked he said it is a buyers market in the UK right now. My mate went over a month later to a different shop and things were just the same. This dealer payed for his taxi from the airport.
this should have had its own thread, so people could check him out/stock etc
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Old 2nd February 2019, 10:01 AM
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If your not sorted.
Lad near me is considering selling his 2016 v4 tuono.
Uk reg.
She'd be around £10k stg.
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Old 3rd February 2019, 12:59 AM
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Iv bought 2 bikes in the UK. First hit them with "look what's the very best, I'm coming from Ireland to buy not kick the tyres" Then the "I'm not bothered about a warrantee, so you won't see me again once the deal is done". Funny to see someone else uses the same line about the warrantee haha
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Old 3rd February 2019, 02:15 AM
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Bought a bike from a UK dealer for the first time last year. Only reason for going to the UK was that I couldn't find the particular bike I was looking for here in Ireland. My experience:

They would budge fuck all on the price. Chap I was dealing with (sales manager) promised he'd 'look after me' with a deal on helmet/gloves/gear. I reasoned that this was hardly my first bike, I was already well kitted out and would prefer a few quid off the asking price - not a chance.

I also tried the 'Sure you'll never see me again, never mind the warranty' speech and his reply was that even if the bike shat itself in Ireland, they'd still cover the warranty, no need to bring it back to them, bring it to my local bike shop and they'd deal directly with them and pay whatever was due (fair enough I suppose).

I was planning to get the ferry over and collect it but they wanted £99 to deliver it to the ferry port. Non-negotiable. Ended up being cheaper to have the fecking thing collected (Thanks MB Transport!).

I was still happy with the deal because it was the bike I wanted at a good price, it's just over here you're kinda used to getting some concession to sweeten the deal, however small, but in the UK it seems to be a case of 'this is the price, pay it or fuck off'. Which in a way, you have to admire.
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Old 3rd February 2019, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by discoblade
What dealer was that?
John banks in Cambridge They have 4 other shops
https://www.johnbanks.co.uk/honda-bikes/
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Old 3rd February 2019, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PADDYOT
I also tried the 'Sure you'll never see me again, never mind the warranty' speech and his reply was that even if the bike shat itself in Ireland, they'd still cover the warranty, no need to bring it back to them, bring it to my local bike shop and they'd deal directly with them and pay whatever was due (fair enough I suppose).
That's the way it is. They don't give a fuck if you're from outer Mongolia. Because unless it was a trade deal they'd still have to honour the warranty if the bike shat itself in 6 months time.
And all this "what's your best price for cash" nonsense is comical.
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Old 3rd February 2019, 05:00 PM
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Who wouldn't like a good haggle! But I kinda like the simplicity of no-haggling thing going on with the UK dealers - at least we know the price advertised is the price, so it's easier to compare used bike deals - unlike here, asking prices are all over the place and 10k ONO could mean anything from 6k to €9800 (and never 10k).
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Old 3rd February 2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
And all this "what's your best price for cash" nonsense is comical.
Lads don't realise they don't want cash because it costs them money to go to the bank with cash.
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Old 3rd February 2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SoulX
Lads don't realise they don't want cash because it costs them money to go to the bank with cash.
Does anyone apart from drug dealers even use cash these days? Yeah, I know lots do, but bike dealers don't want to be fucking about with cash, especially since we now have these wonderful things called bank transfers. And it's even worse if the eejit on the phone is asking a private seller "What's your best cash price?" What the fuck else are they going to pay with, Rancheros?
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Old 3rd February 2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
Does anyone apart from drug dealers even use cash these days? Yeah, I know lots do, but bike dealers don't want to be fucking about with cash, especially since we now have these wonderful things called bank transfers. And it's even worse if the eejit on the phone is asking a private seller "What's your best cash price?" What the fuck else are they going to pay with, Rancheros?
Crypto currency obviously.
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Old 3rd February 2019, 08:34 PM
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Crypto currency obviously.
Yeah, then when you go to cash in your chips next week, your €5000 bike will net you about 14 quid
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Old 4th February 2019, 01:52 AM
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You have to atleast try to haggle! Plenty of dealers in the UK and it's like anything, if you don't ask you won't get.

People seem to get fierce offended these days if someone dares makes to make low offer with the aim of hopefully meet somewhere in the middle. It's all part of it.

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Old 4th February 2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
What the fuck else are they going to pay with, Rancheros?
Cheque? Bank draft? Money order? Credit card?
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Old 4th February 2019, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by renniks
Cheque? Bank draft? Money order? Credit card?
Aye, and would ya be good enough to return the over payment by western union, asap.

Cheers mate.
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