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Old 12th March 2017, 09:57 AM
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Put a wheel was in or a wash pit to drive through or hire a road sweeper. I dont give a shit how they do it.

The usual poor farmer bullshit


And who says i dont follow the rules?

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Old 12th March 2017, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco
Put a wheel was in or a wash pit to drive through or hire a road sweeper. I dont give a shit how they do it.

The usual poor farmer bullshit


And who says i dont follow the rules?
i didnt say you dont follow the rules.i said we,bikers in general.
if you can stop in time when you see the obstruction then you are obviously following the correct speed limit.
its when someone isnt following the limit or three times it then they are obviously not playing by the rules and shouldnt have any opinions on how others should make it better for them.

i find myself peging it aswell sometimes but ive no one to blame if i cant slow enough to avoid the shite on the road.
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Old 12th March 2017, 10:24 AM
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So bikers just have to account for lazy cunt farmers because they pay tax and its the bikers fault if they come off.
Next you'll be suggesting that the government pay for road sweepers to clean the road after farmers
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Old 12th March 2017, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco
So bikers just have to account for lazy cunt farmers because they pay tax and its the bikers fault if they come off.
Next you'll be suggesting that the government pay for road sweepers to clean the road after farmers
no they should account for every obstruction not just farmers,.
is that not what riding defensively is??
ive more a problem with loose chippins after roadworks than clay.
loose chippins are easily swept up or sucked up wet or dry.
clay is a bitch to sweep if its driven over and compacted in or if its raining then all a sweeper will do is turn the road into a 8ft slide of shite and water.
id prefer riding between the trails of shite than that .
its a pain in the hole but we have no choice but to keep an eye out for it.
im under no illusions that the majority will disagree with me on this ,im not a farmer either just want to balance the argument
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Old 12th March 2017, 08:28 PM
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The survey is quite blunt in suggesting that motorcyclists drive after alcohol most of the time, without helmets most of the time, and in an anti social manner, most of the time.
It is important as many of us as possible complete it to oppose strongly their assertion.

Otherwise it'll be the stick they beat us with.
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Old 16th May 2017, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Southern Rider
I saw this in BBG last night flicking through, anybody gone on line yet to do it. I tried it this morning, but pages were too slow to load, so I might go back later to do.
Thanks for that Southern Rider I'm after winning the Shoei neotec
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Old 16th May 2017, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Seanie Philip Hugo Baron van Zuylen van Nijevelt
Thanks for that Southern Rider I'm after winning the Shoei neotec
You jamrag well done
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Old 5th July 2017, 10:35 AM
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Nice to see the survey results being put to such excellent use.
That Eddie Cunningham fella is quite anti biker and appears to make no excuses. Had a cut off of him before, but he seems not to be able to help himself
http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring
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Old 5th July 2017, 11:10 AM
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Well questions where asked and answered by "bikers".... who they were and how much if any biking some of these respondents do we don't know but he's commenting on the results. I'd strongly agree with him on "Trained motorcyclists prove every day that biking can be a fun, safe and satisfying activity.
But if you don't have appropriate skills, the right attitude to safety and the benefit of education and training, it's a much riskier pursuit"
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Old 5th July 2017, 02:17 PM
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Typical "journalism" you'd expect from the Indo, but here is their take on the RSA Survery bikers filled out


Motorcyclists are consistently over-represented in fatality and serious injury figures.

There is no avoiding the vulnerability bikers must feel on the open road.

Two-thirds of those who participated in the Motorcyclists Rider Behaviour Study 2017, reported having had a near-miss in the previous two years, while a further 11pc had a collision (including a minor spill) over the same period; 40pc of those who had a collision had been injured.

Of all traffic violations, excessive speed is the most common for motorcyclists. Almost half admitted to exceeding the speed limit on motorways occasionally, 10pc frequently or nearly all the time. A further 43pc speed at least occasionally on country roads.

Most concerning was how 28pc admitted they disregard the speed limit late at night or in the early hours - at least occasionally.

It was heartening, however, to see that 95pc said drinking and riding a motorcycle increased the risk of a collision.

In the RSA's fourth landmark pre-crash report, alcohol was found to be a factor in 29pc of fatal motorcycle collisions between 2008 and 2012.

That research revealed that almost one-third (29pc) of motorcyclists involved in fatal collisions had consumed alcohol and almost half of these (45pc) were four times or more above the current legal limit.

The RSA has, at times, been criticised for focusing excessively on the dangers of motorcycles and turning people off biking. The statistics, however, speak for themselves.

One of the main reasons motorcyclists are so vulnerable is that they have less protection than drivers or passengers in vehicles.

Training and education, however, are also an issue.

Trained motorcyclists prove every day that biking can be a fun, safe and satisfying activity.

But if you don't have appropriate skills, the right attitude to safety and the benefit of education and training, it's a much riskier pursuit.

Here are a few simple safety tips to keep in mind.

* Wear appropriate clothing and a secure helmet every time you get on your bike.

* jockss and trousers should give you enough protection from impact, abrasion, cold and weather conditions.

* Use body armour on vulnerable areas such as the back, knees, elbows, shoulders, hips and shins.

* Wear a good reflective jocks to make you more visible on the road.

* Wear protective gloves and footwear.

All road users have a responsibility to keep the roads safe for each other.
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Old 5th July 2017, 02:22 PM
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so good it needed a second thread!
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Old 5th July 2017, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by renniks
so good it needed a second thread!
Never even noticed the original thread was updated.
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Old 5th July 2017, 03:54 PM
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haven't they pulled outta the bike market as they were the ones behind cornmarket/adelaide so why the survey, a bit late
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Old 5th July 2017, 03:56 PM
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In the RSA's fourth landmark pre-crash report, alcohol was found to be a factor in 29pc of fatal motorcycle collisions between 2008 and 2012.
Close... 29% of all fatal collisions involved a driver or motorcyclist who had consumed alcohol.
Also, alcohol was a contributory factor in 38% of all (cage)driver deaths

almost half of these (45pc) were four times or more above the current legal limit.
Nope... 50% of all drivers with a confirmed presence of alcohol were over four times over the current drink driving limit
Whereas 26% of (cage)drivers were five times over the current legal limit

The statistics, however, speak for themselves.
Unless you make them up along the way

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Press%20...a%20Factor.pdf

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Old 5th July 2017, 06:02 PM
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What a load of shite them cunts spout.

http://m.independent.ie/life/motorin...-35894932.html
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Old 5th July 2017, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by galway86
Farmers bringing shite on our roads is a necessary evil.how exactly are they supposed to get spuds, carrots, turnips, , peas, barley, wheat, hay, straw, silage etc the list is endless out of fields that are grown in clay without bringing clay out with them.
Im sure they would love to have a nice clean working environment to grow things in but vegetables needs soil so thats that fucked.
Fact is ireland could do without motorcyclists it couldnt do without farmers feeding the fucking place . We as bikers contribute sweet fuck all to the pot with our measly 88 euro a year tax. Do you realise all the expense farmers have with machinery, diesel, maintenance, labour to deliver a product we all need and couldnt do without?
Having to slow back down to a reasonable speed might be an inconvenience to some but its safer in the long run.
And for 16 year olds driving tractors .there only trying to make a bit of money during the summer , they are a hell of a lot safer tippin along at 30-35 mph than the biker tipping along at 150mph to get his/her kicks and is too cheap or inconsiderate to take it to a track.
And man holes arent just plates of steel on the ground they are access to pipes and services underground. They kinda have to put them over the pipes or they wouldnt be much good
Fuck sake you do talk some shite.
Have you ever heard of a wheel wash?
You do realise it's actually illegal for farmers to leave the roads covered in shite, don't you?

I was going to address each point of your post individually, but there's so much shite in there I wouldn't know where to start and can't be arsed.
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Old 5th July 2017, 06:15 PM
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"It was heartening, however, to see that 95pc said drinking and riding a motorcycle increased the risk of a collision"

Heartening - bunch of biased pricks.

Try 100% of motorcycles cannot use phone whilst riding compared with 0% of cars...
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Old 5th July 2017, 06:18 PM
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Well done to everyone who took the time to fill in the survey. I'm sure you didn't think the results would be twisted and skewed and used to make bikers look like cunts... for some bizarre reason.
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Old 5th July 2017, 06:24 PM
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If it was Fiana fail stats they'd ask them to make a comment but no need for any biker views!
29% of all fatal motorcycle collisions between 2008 and 2012 had alchohol as a factor.... realise how they jumped to the conclusion bikers were drinking and driving and not the cage that pulled out in frony of them!!!

Then the article runs away with that plot!
We need auto journalists that actually drive bikes....
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Old 5th July 2017, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny b
If it was Fiana fail stats they'd ask them to make a comment but no need for any biker views!
29% of all fatal motorcycle collisions between 2008 and 2012 had alchohol as a factor.... realise how they jumped to the conclusion bikers were drinking and driving and not the cage that pulled out in frony of them!!!

Then the article runs away with that plot!
We need auto journalists that actually drive bikes....
Exactly this. I don't know any bikers who'd head out on the bike after booze.
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