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Old 3rd December 2017, 05:49 PM
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Default Realistic, insurable, nice bikes for post lgbt A-licencees

Got a couple of neighbours in their 40's interested in getting their bike licences. They don't know jack about bikes so they keep asking me, and I ain't got the answers.

From members' experiences, what are the kinds of bike options that a mature, grown man as a new rider can buy, insure and enjoy for reasonable cost.

Is it all sub 500cc parallel twins or are there any other gems that insurance companies will entertain?

Tdm900 ?
Cbf 1000?
650 twins?
Vfr's?
Then all the 600 middleweights - bandits, fazers, hornets, gsr's etc?

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Old 3rd December 2017, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Realistic, insurable, nice bikes for post lgbt A-licencees

fitting into that category myself id say 650 twins and the 600 middleweights you mention are the safest bet but it depends on the insurance company whether they will insure certain bikes on a learner permit or with a full licence less than a year old
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Old 3rd December 2017, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bloke
Is it all sub 500cc parallel twins or are there any other gems that insurance companies will entertain?
The ideal bike will be one that meets the requirements for the RSA
test and I-B-T. 595cc+ 50kW+ 175kg+. Something like a Bandit 650
will be powerful enough (57kW for the 05/06 model) to take the test on,
but not so powerful as to be difficult to insure.

Then all the 600 middleweights - bandits, fazers, hornets, gsr's etc?
Insurers are usually happy with bikes they know. Bandit, Fazer, CBF and so on.
Anything rare or exotic tends to ring alarm bells. Always get a couple of binding
quotes for insurance before buying a bike. When I was looking for insurance in 2012,
quotes for a 650 Bandit were lower than for a 250-400cc bike.
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Old 4th December 2017, 12:01 PM
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So the power to weight limit thing is still a consideration for the full A licence as well then?

I thought the point of that direct access was that you could ride anything, as long as you could insure it.
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Old 4th December 2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bloke
So the power to weight limit thing is still a consideration for the full A licence as well then?
There are no power-to-weight restrictions for category A. There is a rule
that says a category A bike used for the RSA test must be at least 180kg (with a tolerance
of +/- 5kg). This means that the absolute minimum weight must be 175kg. This excludes
some of the lighter sports bikes.

I thought the point of that direct access was that you could ride anything, as long as you could insure it.
Category A covers "any motorcycle". As you say, the only limitations are
how much you pay for insurance and the RSA requirements for the test and I-B-T.
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