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Mig/Tig/arc welding

I've always wanted to do a bit of welding but never had the space to justify buying one. I've just built a new garage so I was thinking of doing a course and getting a welder in the new year.

What type of course/welder is best?
I'd like to be able weld mild steel box sections for small projects but also be able to weld aluminum and stainless parts on the bikes if necessary.
Is there any one type that does all or would you need different welders for different jobs?
There's beginner courses available for all 3 that are starting up in the spring.
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

Mig is easyest to learn but you wont be doing stainless or alu with a normal setup.

Tig is hardest to learn but most useful
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

Tig for bike welding is your best bet. Takes the most time to learn but worth it. Mig for general heavier use really such as box sections etc. MMA or "stick" for general use but not much use for bike parts..
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

So Tig for alu or stainless and Mig or arc for general use. If you learn to Tig weld would the knowledge enable you to Mig weld too? I think the Tig would nearly be more useful for what I'd be at but would definitely like to be able weld heavier stuff too if possible
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

I did a Tig course and based on that, decided to buy a cheap Tig machine. You'll save a fortune by doing a course as the materials and gas to practise with are provided. If you do well on the course, your good to go buy if ya like. You might realise you hate it and decide not to bother also.

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http://www.ddletb.ie/further-educati...ns/programmes/
http://nwi.ie/

I did the one in Tallaght ddletb and it was great for the money (€350). NMI I think was €500.

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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

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I did a Tig course and based on that, decided to buy a cheap Tig machine. You'll save a fortune by doing a course as the materials and gas to practise with are provided. If you do well on the course, your good to go buy if ya like. You might realise you hate it and decide not to bother also.

Courses:
http://www.ddletb.ie/further-educati...ns/programmes/
http://nwi.ie/

I did the one in Tallaght ddletb and it was great for the money (€350). NMI I think was €500.

What way was that ran,was it evenings...and how long was it for?
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

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What way was that ran,was it evenings...and how long was it for?
Its run at evening and I think part time too. I did this one in the evenings. There is a choice of either Mon and Wed or Tue and Thurs.
https://dublintrainingcentres.ie/cou...ourseId=272984

It runs for 10 weeks I think. Savage value if you can get on it. I think priority is given to job seekers so I had to wait a for the next round of applications. They all sorts of machine shop coarses too.
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

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Its run at evening and I think part time too. I did this one in the evenings. There is a choice of either Mon and Wed or Tue and Thurs.
https://dublintrainingcentres.ie/cou...ourseId=272984

It runs for 10 weeks I think. Savage value if you can get on it. I think priority is given to job seekers so I had to wait a for the next round of applications. They all sorts of machine shop coarses too.
Sound dude,I’ll have a look through it thanks
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

Those courses look similar to the ones being offered here in Galway. CodeJACK did you dive straight into the Tig course or did you already have some mig/arc experience?
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

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Those courses look similar to the ones being offered here in Galway. CodeJACK did you dive straight into the Tig course or did you already have some mig/arc experience?
Never touched a welder before

Its not as tough as people say to do it. The course lets you pratice all ya like with a controlled cost. Its an art form to do it well but you can certainly stick metal together after this course. Making it pretty comes with skill.

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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

Originally Posted by sean61
So Tig for alu or stainless and Mig or arc for general use. If you learn to Tig weld would the knowledge enable you to Mig weld too? I think the Tig would nearly be more useful for what I'd be at but would definitely like to be able weld heavier stuff too if possible
Learning to tig weld will possibly help but its a different thing really. different equipment, settings etc. The tig is defo a more skilled form as you are using a filler material in one hand with the torch in the other so you have a lot going on. Like anything its a practice thing..... but for bike related work tig is the way to go..... mig is more useful overall however probably. learn both!!
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Re: Mig/Tig/arc welding

I applied for the Mig course in the end. It's probably a better place to start, nice to be able to Tig weld but I wouldn't have much use for it apart from the odd repair on the race bike. I'll have more fun making dodgy structures with mig for now.

FYI the course is with the local training centre (GRETB) and it sounds like I may get the cost refunded even though I'm currently employed. Something to do with upskilling for courses under level 6. I have to look into that a bit more and see what the story is. It would be nice to get something back from all the taxes for once 🙄
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