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Old 9th January 2019, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueb6
My thinking always was that hi-vis is useless in the dark, it's the reflective strips that makes sense at night.
These days I'm wearing a textile [email protected] that have reflective strips sewn in and at night I'm highly visible.
Hi-vis is for daytime use and useless if the stupid twats don't actually look and see us.
Now that you mention it in December a few years ago it was dark 6.30pm minding my own business headlight light on high viz on and well lit street this aul codger in his cage still decides ah sure I'll just pull across here can't see anyone I survived but me aul bike was not so lucky
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Old 9th January 2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kavo
Now that you mention it in December a few years ago it was dark 6.30pm minding my own business headlight light on high viz on and well lit street this aul codger in his cage still decides ah sure I'll just pull across here can't see anyone I survived but me aul bike was not so lucky
You could have a pair of lighthouse lights on the front of your bike & some cunt would still pull out in front of you, with the old SMIDSY bullshit...
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Old 9th January 2019, 05:00 PM
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This is my hi-viz for riding in the dark:

https://www.provizsports.com/en-gb/r...pose-vest.html

I might at some point invest in a fuller coat version.


On my bike, the frontal view allows my helmet to be seen, but not my torso. Many bikes are like this - the rider is obscured from view but the helmet is visible. My helmet is white with some 3M reflective tape added.

The lower chart on page 13 here suggests there aren't many incidents where the bike was hit from the rear or side, so maybe hi-viz ain't all dat...

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Fatal%20..._1997_2006.pdf

All the hi-viz gear in the shop isn't going to help you if you don't put yourself where you can be seen...

RSA TIYB Position 2.jpg

The primary danger with wearing hi-viz is assuming you now stand out. We don't; we should assume instead - whether we wear h-viz or not - that we're invisible. Evidence suggests that to plenty of road users, we really are...
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Old 9th January 2019, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: High viz craze

Originally Posted by Phaedrus
This is my hi-viz for riding in the dark:

https://www.provizsports.com/en-gb/r...pose-vest.html

I might at some point invest in a fuller coat version.


On my bike, the frontal view allows my helmet to be seen, but not my torso. Many bikes are like this - the rider is obscured from view but the helmet is visible. My helmet is white with some 3M reflective tape added.

The lower chart on page 13 here suggests there aren't many incidents where the bike was hit from the rear or side, so maybe hi-viz ain't all dat...

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Fatal%20..._1997_2006.pdf

All the hi-viz gear in the shop isn't going to help you if you don't put yourself where you can be seen...

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The primary danger with wearing hi-viz is assuming you now stand out. We don't; we should assume instead - whether we wear h-viz or not - that we're invisible. Evidence suggests that to plenty of road users, we really are...
That Hi-Viz jocks looks very similar to the Macna Night Eye gear. Lee Honda (motorcycleshop.ie) keep a good range of it. I think it's a great product. These photo's are using the flash in a well lit shop, can you imagine how reflective they would be at night.
The lit up panels are actually dark grey in colour.

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Old 9th January 2019, 08:34 PM
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Correct. And Held do something similar. I already had my Dainese D-Stormer, so it was something to go over that that I wanted. Certainly hard to miss you at night - between that level of reflectivity and your movement you have a good chance of being seen. I still assume the spas can't see me...
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Old 9th January 2019, 09:32 PM
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The problem with hi-viz is it's become mainstream so nobody notices it anymore.
Years ago the only time you saw hi-viz was on cops/fire brigade/ambulance etc.
Now every fool and his dog(literally)wear it.The danger is if someone sees yellow hi-viz they assume you're a pedestrian and not hammering along at X mph.
If you really want to stand out try blue hi-viz,seems it's the most noticeable colour.
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Old 9th January 2019, 11:41 PM
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on de road people only see what they perceive to be a direct bodily threat to themselves. I learned that the hard way.

If ya really want to do sommit positive with respect to being seen on de road, ya should petition feck book to fashion an app to warn cagers of the presence of an incoming biker. simples.
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Old 10th January 2019, 11:11 AM
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whats that macna gear like now, have an old macna / spada jocks and its great still but worn looking used alot, dont see the gear about much,
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Old 10th January 2019, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork
If you really want to stand out try blue hi-viz,seems it's the most noticeable colour.
paired with some flashing blue lights like I see on some bicycles
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Old 10th January 2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Motomong
paired with some flashing blue lights like I see on some bicycles
Was wandering about to use the bicycle lights. Its someone using them? Never seen them on any motorbike. I have pair of them home and they shine and flash like crazy but im afraid a bit someone can thing Im riding a bicycle
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Old 10th January 2019, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaskin71
Was wandering about to use the bicycle lights. Its someone using them? Never seen them on any motorbike. I have pair of them home and they shine and flash like crazy but im afraid a bit someone can thing Im riding a bicycle
Flashing lights are the stupidist thing you can put on a bike
All they do is disorientate drivers and increase your chances of getting a slap.
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Old 10th January 2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty LCI
Not at all I still assume they haven't but if it means that I stand out enough for a cager's quick glance up the road to spot me then it's worth the lack of street cred (I'm in my 50s so I don't care what the cool kids think)
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Old 10th January 2019, 09:56 PM
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IIUC you can put flashing lights on the rider but not the motorbike?

I've used a cyclist's small red LED (solid rather than flashing) clipped on the back of my coat collar - I like the idea of the extra viz at night.
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Old 11th January 2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaskin71
Was wandering about to use the bicycle lights. Its someone using them? Never seen them on any motorbike. I have pair of them home and they shine and flash like crazy but im afraid a bit someone can thing Im riding a bicycle
I sometimes use a rear light attached to the topbox in the scrolling mode rather than constant or flashing. Cages do hang a little further back.
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Old 11th January 2019, 04:50 PM
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aren't they still illegal to fix to the bike, as too are pulsing brake lights.

regardless will give smidsy a defence in being able to claim he saw your indicators flashing displaying an intent to turn just before ya rode straight through the junction.

believe it was Alan posted a picture of a Syrian biker and pillion passenger carrying a rpg, if ya really wish to be safer on the roads - take inspiration from there, dare say ya would even find those pesky checkpoints a blast then too.
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