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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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And well before the LC, she would still do 90 going down a steep hill
Happy days on the X7.....it was like a scaled up version of the GP100 with an extra cylinder. Bit more robust than the RD350 I would have thought...could be rose tinted glasses though
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Happy days on the X7.....it was like a scaled up version of the GP100 with an extra cylinder. Bit more robust than the RD350 I would have thought...could be rose tinted glasses though
A tuned RD with expansions, drops...AC/DC patches on the cut-off...white runnerboots..yer ma's gloves...ahhh
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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A tuned RD with expansions, drops...AC/DC patches on the cut-off...white runnerboots..yer ma's gloves...ahhh
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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They do, just not the european ones.
Correct - nobody's buying 600 SuperSport's anymore as they think they can ride SuperBikes faster on the road....

The big money is in selling <125cc yokes in emerging markets (the India's, Bangladeshs, Vietnams etc) - low margins, but high volume.

Of course the emergence of PCP for high end bikes that are ridden 'for the season' only is another form of easy money for manufacturers too.

Lastly, let's not forget that build quality and longevity is long gone - bikes are built for the duration of the PCP contract and then that's it. Not many modern (non-touring) bikes will ever see 50,000 miles+

They're simply consumer goods nowadays that are expected to be replaced every 3 years with a new one on PCP....
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

I have to say, the older I get, the more the PCP idea appeals to me.
Use a new bike for 3 years, but only pay 2/3 of the cost. Better than paying full price for something that will be parked in the shed from November to April, as it's internals slowly start to degrade and require replacement, and it loses value as the loan to purchase it matures.
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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I have to say, the older I get, the more the PCP idea appeals to me.
Use a new bike for 3 years, but only pay 2/3 of the cost. Better than paying full price for something that will be parked in the shed from November to April, as it's internals slowly start to degrade and require replacement, and it loses value as the loan to purchase it matures.
Something I considered myself long and hard. However any of my mates on pcp have strongly advised against it. Its a thread in itself
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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I have to say, the older I get, the more the PCP idea appeals to me.
Use a new bike for 3 years, but only pay 2/3 of the cost. Better than paying full price for something that will be parked in the shed from November to April, as it's internals slowly start to degrade and require replacement, and it loses value as the loan to purchase it matures.
Apart from Harley and BMW, which bikes would need internals replacing after 3 years?
Apart from Harley and BMW, which bikes would be worth less than 1/3 of their new price after 3 years?
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Something I considered myself long and hard. However any of my mates on pcp have strongly advised against it. Its a thread in itself
Anyone I know who went for pcp reckon it's the worst thing they ever did.
A lad I know who used to sell cages told me it was the most stupid thing anyone could do,and he was selling it
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Anyone I know who went for pcp reckon it's the worst thing they ever did.
Totally - a big wad of a cash deposit up front (you never get it back), only a few hunderd quid a month repayments that you think is great and then at the end of the 3 years you have to hand the thing back and you're left with nada......

All you're doing is renting the bleeding thing !

Just get a credit union loan - at least the licensing certificate will be in your name and you own it and can do what you want with it - sell it, break it for parts, set it on fire or worse - streetfighter it.....
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Stone washed jeans and a middle-east shemagh scarf
Fucking hippy bikers.....
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Fucking hippy bikers.....
it was the late eighties!!
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Totally - a big wad of a cash deposit up front (you never get it back), only a few hunderd quid a month repayments that you think is great and then at the end of the 3 years you have to hand the thing back and you're left with nada......

All you're doing is renting the bleeding thing !

Just get a credit union loan - at least the licensing certificate will be in your name and you own it and can do what you want with it - sell it, break it for parts, set it on fire or worse - streetfighter it.....
yep...big deposit..200e a month and a balloon payment at the end...nuts
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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Apart from Harley and BMW, which bikes would need internals replacing after 3 years?
Apart from Harley and BMW, which bikes would be worth less than 1/3 of their new price after 3 years?
Funny thing, my tractor depreciated less than any other bike ive ever owned, bought new in 2008 for 27.5k I got 12,500 euro when I sold it last year, 50,000km on the clock, the fact that it was a CVO helped, twas a good looking bike to be fair and never once gave a spot of bother, you got your facts wrong mate and ill tell you why...



95% of Harley's are still on the road....
Only 5% made it home

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Funny thing, my tractor depreciated less than any other bike ive ever owned, bought new in 2008 for 27.5k I got 12,500 euro when I sold it last year, 50,000km on the clock, the fact that it was a TVO helped, twas a good looking bike to be fair and never once gave a spot of bother, you got your facts wrong mate and ill tell you why...



95% of Harley's are still on the road....
Only 5% made it home

Fixed that for you.
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Something I considered myself long and hard. However any of my mates on pcp have strongly advised against it. Its a thread in itself
Horses for courses really. PCP worked for me on a cage buy 3yrs ago.

Car price 20000
Scrappage allowance of 3000 on a car worth 500

So balance of 17000.
I paid an interest free monthly for 3 years. (283) this included 3 annual services.

Had the option of handing the car back, re financing to a new car or paying the balance of 7186.

I took the option of paying the balance. Car is worth roughly 11k - 12k now.
Only did 14k over 3 years.

May not suit those who do high mileage.
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Anyone I know who went for pcp reckon it's the worst thing they ever did.
A lad I know who used to sell cages told me it was the most stupid thing anyone could do,and he was selling it
More than one cage salesperson has told me exactly the same thing. One of them who works in a busy main dealership told me that he has advised potential customers against using PCP.
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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I had an X5 in 79 and it would be flat out at 93mph🤣🤣
On the clock, I had a 900 Honda that would do 135 MPH:woots : on the clock.
We raced two of them one morning at a Rally (Once in a Blue Moon) from a standing start, I passed first at 125 ish & the bike behind was doing 135 MPH ???
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On the clock, I had a 900 Honda that would do 135 MPH:woots : on the clock.
We raced two of them one morning at a Rally (Once in a Blue Moon) from a standing start, I passed first at 125 ish & the bike behind was doing 135 MPH ???
I think we've all had those optimistic speedos. It was probably closer to a ton.
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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On the clock, I had a 900 Honda that would do 135 MPH:woots : on the clock.
We raced two of them one morning at a Rally (Once in a Blue Moon) from a standing start, I passed first at 125 ish & the bike behind was doing 135 MPH ???
Reminds me of a red with black striped yamy as3(hand painted could see brush marks) with homemade bum stop,that would sometimes read 80mph down the laneway at the side of our house.
Sold it to a mate of mine who was delighted with his 100mph bike( id say it never hit 60)
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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I think we've all had those optimistic speedos. It was probably closer to a ton.
A few lads rocked into the pub we drank in, three up back from Dirty Nellies doing 130 on a Z900.....fuck off no way I said.. go out and look at the clocks there stuck at 130 MPH....those were the days.
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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A tuned RD with expansions, drops...AC/DC patches on the cut-off...white runnerboots..yer ma's gloves...ahhh
A set of clips ons added about a ton to the story.
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Re: About 30% of all bikes on the road in Ireland are Honda's

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A set of clips ons added about a ton to the story.
The older brother had a yamy 100 twin.decided to fit homemade drops(handlebars)out of copper tubing first time he braked right hand grip snapped off in his hand. Which brings us back to amount of bikes on the road. Our house had at times atleast 5 or 6 bikes on the road at any one time no a screed of tax between them
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