View Poll Results: cbt ,good or bad for biking in ireland
good for biking 300 39.11%
good for biking
300 39.11%
bad for biking 405 52.80%
bad for biking
405 52.80%
undecided 62 8.08%
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62 8.08%
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Old 27th May 2013, 06:33 PM #271
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We all seemed to survive without it.

Maybe the reason instructors are packing it in is because people like Friendly Hooligan, a future biker you were so quick to take the piss out of, are looking at the amount of hoops they're required to jump through and just saying "fuck it" and not bothering.

I know plenty lads myself that have done just that, said "fuck it" after seeing the amount of shite they have to do before getting a license.

How many guys didnt survive?

Training would not have saved them all but in some cases it would have.
No body said training is the be all and end all,(at least the guy will have some clue what he,s at and will be aware of some of the dangers
The roads are a different place now compared to 10/20 years ago

If a guy comes onto a public fourm and puts up a statment like its all shite.(IBT)
When he hasnt done it and probably knows fuck all about it then yes i will
take the piss out of him.

If guys dont want to bother with it (IBT) fine
just dont piss and moan on here when they get the points/ban fine etc
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If guys dont want to bother with it (IBT) fine
just dont piss and moan on here when they get the points/ban fine etc
They're buying track bikes and saying "fuck it" to road bikes altogether.

To use your own words, "don't piss and moan" that instructors are packing it in because IBT is putting folks off biking.
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They're buying track bikes and saying "fuck it" to road bikes altogether.

To use your own words, "don't piss and moan" that instructors are packing it in because IBT is putting folks off biking.
the guy made a statement its good for instructors
I just pointed out that it not all good
Hardly piss and moan now is it
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So we're agreed that it's bad for everyone?
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So we're agreed that it's bad for everyone?
No i would not say that at all
the winner here is the guy/gal that does the IBT

If you had a poll on here about IBT

As in people that have actully done it i would say that the vast majoraity would have a good outlook on it.

Ok some guys will not be happy over the price but thats always gonna be the case.
But you cant seriously say that a bit of training is a bad thing
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How many guys didnt survive?

Training would not have saved them all but in some cases it would have.
No body said training is the be all and end all,(at least the guy will have some clue what he,s at and will be aware of some of the dangers
The roads are a different place now compared to 10/20 years ago

If a guy comes onto a public fourm and puts up a statment like its all shite.(IBT)
When he hasnt done it and probably knows fuck all about it then yes i will
take the piss out of him.

If guys dont want to bother with it (IBT) fine
just dont piss and moan on here when they get the points/ban fine etc
I think I said most of it is shite but the later modules are good as is the idea behind it. Wouldn't it be better to have an initial meeting to gauge the students abilities and do the module's of benefit instead of charging everyone to show them how to put your bike on its stand because your last bike licence expired a year before the renewal cut off.

Ps. I didn't mean to piss anyone off only answering the poll. Loving the site by the way
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Re: irish cbt , now with poll. vote on this!

I was reading this thread before i went for the IBT course and decided to reserve judgement till after doing it so i could make up my own mind.

Is it good for biking?

Well... I have spent the last 2 days doing module 1,3&5 for direct access on cat A. I can hand on heart say that i feel a lot more confident on my bike now then i did before the course, for safety's sake and also skill's sake.

I work in the emergency services and on a very regular occasion my nights and days are spend at RTC's where people have horrific injuries as well as fatalities that could be avoided if good practice was used. I know not every accident is the fault of the biker, and that other road users need also to be trained to keep an eye out for us, but on a few occasions while on this course i could recall RTC's i have attended that could have been avoided using the safety tips and skills i learnt on this course. So for me i think this course was money well spent!

Is it bad for biking?

Well, it may discourage people from getting into biking because it can be seen as another cost on top of getting a bike, insurance, tax, ppe gear etc etc.... but in all honesty what is a few hundred quid if it means you learn skills to get back home safe to your family after a great day riding rather than having an off and getting injured or worse?

Cost is always a hard pill to swallow, admittedly i was kinda pissed off to have to fork out more money, but for me, learning some of the basic but important points the easy way suits me a lot more than the hard way.

Just my input, but i would be for this... I think it will save lives!
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I was reading this thread before i went for the IBT course and decided to reserve judgement till after doing it so i could make up my own mind.

Is it good for biking?

Well... I have spent the last 2 days doing module 1,3&5 for direct access on cat A. I can hand on heart say that i feel a lot more confident on my bike now then i did before the course, for safety's sake and also skill's sake.

I work in the emergency services and on a very regular occasion my nights and days are spend at RTC's where people have horrific injuries as well as fatalities that could be avoided if good practice was used. I know not every accident is the fault of the biker, and that other road users need also to be trained to keep an eye out for us, but on a few occasions while on this course i could recall RTC's i have attended that could have been avoided using the safety tips and skills i learnt on this course. So for me i think this course was money well spent!

Is it bad for biking?

Well, it may discourage people from getting into biking because it can be seen as another cost on top of getting a bike, insurance, tax, ppe gear etc etc.... but in all honesty what is a few hundred quid if it means you learn skills to get back home safe to your family after a great day riding rather than having an off and getting injured or worse?

Cost is always a hard pill to swallow, admittedly i was kinda pissed off to have to fork out more money, but for me, learning some of the basic but important points the easy way suits me a lot more than the hard way.

Just my input, but i would be for this... I think it will save lives!

Great to hear from some one that has actually done the IBT. before they make statement and call it shite

And suprise suprise they think its a good thing

Best of luck on your biking adventures great to hear it was a positive experience for you
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Re: irish cbt , now with poll. vote on this!

Just completed the IBT and I take it back.
I was undecided because I thought the idea was good but thought it could be applied better but now I know its pure muck Feel kinda ripped off actually
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Re: irish cbt , now with poll. vote on this!

Most of the criticism seems to be coming from lads who've been riding bikes years and have had to do IBT to renew a licence or whatever. Sure, if you've been riding for ages then the IBT might seem like a load of shite.

But when I got my first bike, I knew fuck all. I had no friend or relation with a motorbike that could show me even the basics or answer my stupid beginner questions. If there were no IBT, I would have gone on YouTube to learn how to ride, and I probably would have killed myself. Instead, I had to do the IBT and had an excellent instructor who I will go back to, to get advanced training in the future.

Of course the IBT is a good thing.
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Re: irish cbt , now with poll. vote on this!

It is way too expensive though...
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