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Old 30th January 2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by efanton
My understanding of lithium battery is very different.

Lithium batteries DO NOT require trickle charging nor do they mind being drained to the max. They will happily give 80-90% on a regular and frequent basis, and when charging will take everything you can throw at them to recharge.

Lead Acid, AGM, Gel etc are quite the opposite. They DO require trickle charging, you can bulk charge the first 60 to 80% but the rest has to be trickle charged. They should never really be drained by more than 50%.

Lithium will also last at least 10 to 15 times longer (cycles).
The only disadvantage to lithium is their cost, and their dislike of sub zero temperatures as has been mentioned.

Have done quite a lot of research into lithium batteries, planning on getting a boat in the next few years that will be used as live-aboard for 3 to 4 months at a time and totally self sufficient for electrical needs (combination of LiFePo4 lithium batteries and solar). Lithium has so many advantages compared to lead acid, but apart from cost the only thing you need worry about is sub zero temperatures. LiFePo4 batteries are the future and I doubt you will see anything else on cars, bike boats or caravan in 10 years time, lead acid will be a thing of the past. They are also dramatically dropping in price. The battery bank That I was budgeting for has dropped in price by well over Ä1000, was costing well over Ä4000 a year or so ago and now under Ä3000.

Some people have even tackled the freezing problem by making heater mats to put under their lithium batteries that are thermostat controlled and only turn on once the battery is at risk. Pretty certain you will see these commercially available in the near future

boat link but everything you ever needed to know about the differences between lead acid and lithium is there
Yeah Iíd be inclined to agree with you.... I have found the conventional optimate wonít charge the li-ion if itís been heavily discharged,maybe the voltage is just not high enough,Iím really not so sure...and I havenít had the time to investigate it,just easier to put them on the specific charger I have to do it
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Old 1st February 2019, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by efanton
My understanding of lithium battery is very different.

Lithium batteries DO NOT require trickle charging nor do they mind being drained to the max.
They don't require trickle charging. 1C is optimal, but you can't fully discharge them, or anywhere near it.
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Old 1st February 2019, 12:44 PM
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Running an XRacer lithium battery on the VF1000. No issues and plenty of CCA to urn the battleship over.
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Old 1st February 2019, 02:06 PM
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Lads....friend of mine has a JTM lithium battery in his Gixxer 1000.
Battery is dead as a dodo,as bike hasn't moved in over 8 months.

Any way to revive the lithium battery or is it fit for the bin?
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Old 1st February 2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Japcati
Lads....friend of mine has a JTM lithium battery in his Gixxer 1000.
Battery is dead as a dodo,as bike hasn't moved in over 8 months.

Any way to revive the lithium battery or is it fit for the bin?
ask efanton, as he seems to think they don't mind being drained to the max
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Old 1st February 2019, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Lithium battery

Originally Posted by Japcati
Lads....friend of mine has a JTM lithium battery in his Gixxer 1000.
Battery is dead as a dodo,as bike hasn't moved in over 8 months.

Any way to revive the lithium battery or is it fit for the bin?
dead as in shut off or dead as in no functions at all?
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Old 1st February 2019, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Japcati
Lads....friend of mine has a JTM lithium battery in his Gixxer 1000.
Battery is dead as a dodo,as bike hasn't moved in over 8 months.

Any way to revive the lithium battery or is it fit for the bin?
Any pics ? 😂
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Old 1st February 2019, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sharpbikes
dead as in shut off or dead as in no functions at all?
No life when the test button on it is pressed.
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Old 2nd February 2019, 01:51 PM
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U stuck on a lithium charger or when regular charger see if it will charge up?I'd say even rc lithium charger likenimax would do it
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Old 2nd February 2019, 07:24 PM
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Gonna stick on a normal bike battery charger and see what happens.
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