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Mirrors and indos whats the law?

As above is it Law You have to have indicators and mirrors fitted to the Bike Now?

I got Stopped....
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Old 31st March 2014, 02:05 PM #2
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

Neither are a legal requirement on a motorcycle, but if fitted must be in working condition.
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What custom said mate;rarely had either on bikes in early days (even late 80`s/early 90`s as a courier) BUT now would not use bike without them;anytime I buy a bike if they are not on bike I buy asap; (personal choice but to many fools in cages/rather see them tail gate etc)
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From my understanding the only thing you must have on a bike is a working brake light! But you must use hand signals if you dont have indicators.
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From what I know if the bike is made after 85 it needs indicators .if pre 85 then if they are fitted they must work .
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A few of my old yokes have none , beware thats theres idiots out there that seem to think they can rrun you over for not using indicators regardless of using hand signals .
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

On the face of it, it is a simple matter of reading the Rules of the Road.......a motorcycle must have a white or yellow headlight and a red tail light and a red rear reflector.
However at some point EU Type Approval for motorcycles specified the lighting requirements for motorcycles being imported/sold in Europe. This would presumably supercede Irish law from that point in time onwards.
Unfortunately I don't know exactly when this took place so I won't even attempt to answer it, its a pity some others answer questions to which they simply are guessing the answers.....dangerous place the internet :doh



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On the face of it, it is a simple matter of reading the Rules of the Road.......a motorcycle must have a white or yellow headlight and a red tail light and a red rear reflector.
However at some point EU Type Approval for motorcycles specified the lighting requirements for motorcycles being imported/sold in Europe. This would presumably supercede Irish law from that point in time onwards.
Unfortunately I don't know exactly when this took place so I won't even attempt to answer it, its a pity some others answer questions to which they simply are guessing the answers.....dangerous place the internet :doh
I am not guessing .I know what I said was law. It however may have changed since it came in back in the 80s /90s
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As above is it Law You have to have indicators and mirrors fitted to the Bike Now?

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you got stopped AND what did they actually say???
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As far as I know it is a legal requirement if it came of the production line with them from the manufacturer
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As far as I know it is a legal requirement if it came of the production line with them from the manufacturer
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Defo wrong there
Should have added it has to do with production year as well, not sure of year but probably sometimes 80s, probably slightly different from country to country but fairly sure Scandinavian countries are like that, no idea if there is exceptions to the likes of custom builds
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So it's ok to remove indicators from any bike if you feel like it & that's legally ok? Doesn't sound right to me.
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

It's in the back of my head that you need a Drivers side mirror (but I'm not sure so don't take it as gospel)
For the indos IIRC if they are on the bike at all then they need to work (switchgear/stalks/lights etc.)
I'd suggest calling/mailing the RSA but sure they'd know fuck all anyway so not much point in that
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

I thought the thing with the indos was if the bike came with em from the factory, then they needed to be on the bike & working. If the bike didn't (eg: XR400, or 60's Vespa), then it didn't need them. Just that you couldn't take indos off a bike if it came with em from factory.
Not clear at all in the RSA book, but then that's not much of a surprise really
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From my understanding the only thing you must have on a bike is a working brake light! But you must use hand signals if you dont have indicators.
WTF ....... I would assume handlebars an engine 2 tyres and perhaps brakes would be required too...
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what did they actually say???
Ban Garda; Well

Me;Hi

Ban Garda; whats the Story with no mirrors?

Me; Don't think I need them!

Ban Garda; Wheres the tax?

Me;only insured Bike there an hour ago..

Ban Garda; produce all your docs within ten Days,ride safe, good luck..

me;Thanks Bye.

I will fit mirrors, but I would rather not fit indoes as it is a streetfighter. The Garda was sound, but if I meet a Tick fooker, I need to know if I am in the Right...
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

Found this on citizen info

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...n_ireland.html
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Someone read this and tell me what there shitting on about

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1963/...zsi189y1963a18
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pre 93 bikes do not have to have indicators but if fitted they must be working 93 on have to have them no rules regarding mirrors
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Re: Mirrors and indos whats the law?

Awful lorra shite bein talked in diss tred. The only lights required on a motorcycle without sidecar in this country are front white light, rear red light and rear red reflector, and if your bike was made after 1/1/1993, a brake light, but even that is optional. No other light is legally required, including indicators, and no matter what year the bike.


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What he said^^^
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Awful lorra shite bein talked in diss tred. The only lights required on a motorcycle without sidecar in this country are front white light, rear red light and rear red reflector, and if your bike was made after 1/1/1993, a brake light, but even that is optional. No other light is legally required, including indicators, and no matter what year the bike.


http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1991/en/si/0182.html
Quick question mate..you may know answer.........whats story on a black headlight cover say on a 98/99 blade (mate has black blade/stickerless/and stuck one on;I told him its NOT allowed espec as we work shift hrs and he was using it dusk hrs 1-3 nights a wk.......could see light but not bright;never stopped by guards while he had it on (less than a month) always wondered
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Quick question mate..you may know answer.........whats story on a black headlight cover say on a 98/99 blade (mate has black blade/stickerless/and stuck one on;I told him its NOT allowed espec as we work shift hrs and he was using it dusk hrs 1-3 nights a wk.......could see light but not bright;never stopped by guards while he had it on (less than a month) always wondered

When dark, must be capable of lighting up the road to a distance of 325 feet.
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Grand.......it didn`t
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22. (1) Every cycle and invalid carriage to which this Part of these Regulations applies shall, subject to sub-article (3) of this article, at all times while used in a public place be equipped with position lamps, rear lamps, identification mark lighting and a head lamp, all of which shall comply in all respects with this Part of these Regulations.
No mention of indicators so you're ok without them.
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Obligatory lighting (cycles and invalid carriages).
22. (1) Every cycle and invalid carriage to which this Part of these Regulations applies shall, subject to sub-article (3) of this article, at all times while used in a public place be equipped with position lamps, rear lamps, identification mark lighting and a head lamp, all of which shall comply in all respects with this Part of these Regulations.

are those running lights ( in Americanese) also the reg states rear lamps

Ah vehicle regulations as clear as a 25W incandescant headlight bulk running of a 6 volt battery being charged by a generator with at dodgy ground
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Obligatory lighting (cycles and invalid carriages).
22. (1) Every cycle and invalid carriage to which this Part of these Regulations applies shall, subject to sub-article (3) of this article, at all times while used in a public place be equipped with position lamps, rear lamps, identification mark lighting and a head lamp, all of which shall comply in all respects with this Part of these Regulations.

are those running lights ( in Americanese) also the reg states rear lamps

Ah vehicle regulations as clear as a 25W incandescant headlight bulk running of a 6 volt battery being charged by a generator with at dodgy ground
Position Lamps are basically the Headlights and break lights..
On a [email protected] they give oncoming drivers an idea of the width of said [email protected]
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Obligatory lighting (cycles and invalid carriages).
22. (1) Every cycle and invalid carriage to which this Part of these Regulations applies shall, subject to sub-article (3) of this article, at all times while used in a public place be equipped with position lamps, rear lamps, identification mark lighting and a head lamp, all of which shall comply in all respects with this Part of these Regulations.

are those running lights ( in Americanese) also the reg states rear lamps

Ah vehicle regulations as clear as a 25W incandescant headlight bulk running of a 6 volt battery being charged by a generator with at dodgy ground
Yeah, less than 7w & should be visible for 500ft (they manage to drag that out to over a page of legalese)

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