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New (to me) bike shopping

So, IBT (full A) licence done last week. Bank just confirmed I can borrow 3k. Time to buy a big boy bike I can use for the test. I've seen a BMW F800 st on done deal for 2.5, anyone have an opinion on these? More importantly, anyone know of a mechanic in Dublin I could pay to take a look at whatever I look at before passing with the cash?

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Why not buy from a dealer first time out, so at least you'll have some sort of warranty if it all goes wrong?
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Why not buy from a dealer first time out, so at least you'll have some sort of warranty if it all goes wrong?
Funny you should say that considering someone started a thread asking about Muck and fun a few days ago
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Why not buy from a dealer first time out, so at least you'll have some sort of warranty if it all goes wrong?
It's a fair point and I am thinking of doing just that, but greed takes over and then I think I can get more bike for the money buying private.
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It's a fair point and I am thinking of doing just that, but greed takes over and then I think I can get more bike for the money buying private.
Private price + chance of something expensive going wrong * cost to fix - dealer price = is it greed or blind optimism.

And if you say 0 to either chance or cost you know youre deluding yourself.
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Private price + chance of something expensive going wrong * cost to fix - dealer price = is it greed or blind optimism.

And if you say 0 to either chance or cost you know youre deluding yourself.
Hence the 'anyone know a mechanic to have a look for me'
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Hence the 'anyone know a mechanic to have a look for me'
You'd want one on speed dial to look at all the heaps of shite that people sell as 'mint' on 'shit deal'. You'd be better off buying from a dealer or buying from another country than trying to buy from most of the lying bastards selling privately here.
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You'd want one on speed dial to look at all the heaps of shite that people sell as 'mint' on 'shit deal'. You'd be better off buying from a dealer or buying from another country than trying to buy from most of the lying bastards selling privately here.
Hows the new job with Bord Failte going?

To the OP there are plenty of things that may not seem or be very obvious when buying private (especially your first time)

As already said it may be worth buying from dealer first time out especially if you're getting a loan for it which means you can't really afford to have it parked up saving for parts or labour.
Not for one minute trying to put you off but may be worth erring on the side of caution getting started.
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Hows the new job with Bord Failte going?
Small scratch on frame, due to bike falling off stand = Threw the bike down the road after failing at wheelies, and bent the frame in a knot.

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Don't buy anything until you ring all the insurance companies to make sure they will insure you on that bike you want.

Plenty have been rejected after buying and there's no turn around after that.
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there's been a few threads on the f800

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=237338

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=232862

however, the f800 is prone to " piston slap " apparently, so do the research

https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...ow-will-it-end
https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...or-Piston-Slap
https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...-getting-fixed

An definite alternative to the beemer is the Honda CBF600S. So do some research., the CBF600 engine has a couple of guises and is bombproof if serviced as it should be.

as it will be your first big bike, buy something that will see you through the next 2 / 3 yrs.
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Don't buy anything until you ring all the insurance companies to make sure they will insure you on that bike you want.

Plenty have been rejected after buying and there's no turn around after that.
Already quoted by Liberty, 373 tpft
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there's been a few threads on the f800

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=237338

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=232862

however, the f800 is prone to " piston slap " apparently, so do the research

https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...ow-will-it-end
https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...or-Piston-Slap
https://f800riders.org/forum/showthr...-getting-fixed

An definite alternative to the beemer is the Honda CBF600S. So do some research., the CBF600 engine has a couple of guises and is bombproof if serviced as it should be.

as it will be your first big bike, buy something that will see you through the next 2 / 3 yrs.
Thanks Duke. 2-3 years is exactly what I was planning

Will research the Honda today but can it be used for the test?
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Thanks Duke. 2-3 years is exactly what I was planning

Will research the Honda today but can it be used for the test?

absolutely no idea re test - you'd need to check with someone who does know.

they can be restricted, but a very good bike all in all.
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I would certainly go down the dealer route. Scotts bikes in Harolds is a good place to start looking. Stefan and his crew always looked after my bikes. Just give him a bell and see what he has for sale atm.
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I would certainly go down the dealer route. Scotts bikes in Harolds is a good place to start looking. Stefan and his crew always looked after my bikes. Just give him a bell and see what he has for sale atm.
Going there tomorrow, it's not far from me, thanks
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Going there tomorrow, it's not far from me, thanks
No probs. How did you get on?
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No probs. How did you get on?
Didn't find anything in the dealers but going to see a couple of FZ6 this week, private sales tho!
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Go into JP's off Pearce St...he usually has a few nice bikes around your budget. A lot from the UK so generally well minded
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Have seen a bike with swapped engine. Is there anyway to check the mileage of the new engine?
Does motorcycle.ie cover bikes too?
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Have been keeping an eye on the JPM website but nothing stands out, will keep searching tho
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Update

Bought a 2009 F800st on done deal. Lots of history, owner had 4 other bikes, only 33k km. Had her for 8 days now and feckin loving it! I did see about a dozen bikes, some from dealers, some private bit this one stood out. Needs rear brake pads but that's it.

Highly recommended to any new A permit holders
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Fair play to ya, they're a nice machine. Ride safe, enjoy!
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Update

Bought a 2009 F800st on done deal. Lots of history, owner had 4 other bikes, only 33k km. Had her for 8 days now and feckin loving it! I did see about a dozen bikes, some from dealers, some private bit this one stood out. Needs rear brake pads but that's it.

Highly recommended to any new A permit holders
A good choice the 800 ST .... i owned the S model and briefly the ST which i took on a part exchange.......they handle fairly well, i remember the front suspension on the older S model was crap....if you got a good clean one you wont loose much when it comes time to sell on, providing you look after cleaning and maintenance......a very decent bike...best of luck with it...
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A good choice the 800 ST .... i owned the S model and briefly the ST which i took on a part exchange.......they handle fairly well, i remember the front suspension on the older S model was crap....if you got a good clean one you wont loose much when it comes time to sell on, providing you look after cleaning and maintenance......a very decent bike...best of luck with it...
Front suspension does feel a bit 'soft' to me but I believe that can be remedied with heavier fork oil?
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Best of luck with the new bike!!

You probably already know https://f800riders.org

There are detailed youtube videos on servicing the bike - oil, filter and even the belt change is super easy (compared to changing chain and sprockets).

Great bike. No messing around with chain, oil etc. Nice riding position, and good mpg as well.
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Best of luck with the new bike!!

You probably already know https://f800riders.org

There are detailed youtube videos on servicing the bike - oil, filter and even the belt change is super easy (compared to changing chain and sprockets).

Great bike. No messing around with chain, oil etc. Nice riding position, and good mpg as well.
I know the site thanks, getting around 55mpg at the moment which I'm pretty pleased with
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