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Old 23rd January 2019, 02:35 PM
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Default Negotiating with UK dealers

All,

I'm thinking of going UK-wards for bike shopping, mostly because you can't get a Tuono V4 in Ireland...

Question is, has anyone any experience of buying 2nd hand from UK dealers? Are they generally open to a discount for a cash deal?
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Old 23rd January 2019, 02:47 PM
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They will have a bit of room to negotiate but not as much as you would think, and they would perfer if you financed through them to be honest, cash isn't as big an incentive. In saying that your best ringing direct, asking for a price and making a reasonable offer on that. No guarantee that you'll Make a saving over the price advertised but if you were to Pick up a bit of gear at the same time or similar you might get a good discount off it. Your going to come out ahead just on the prices there anyway.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 03:24 PM
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Also worth mentioning that they dont need to cover a warranty from their shop - gives a little room for haggling (especially with the prilla)
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Old 23rd January 2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Also worth mentioning that they dont need to cover a warranty from their shop - gives a little room for haggling (especially with the prilla)
I did think that the "you'll never see me again" argument might help...

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience?
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Old 23rd January 2019, 03:54 PM
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English people/dealers are the hardest to haggle off!
I bought a few bikes from Drayton Croft in Coventry and could
never get a "huge" discount.
Larger market to choose from so they aint really bothered about Paddy
riding off into the sunset because they know they will sell it eventually.
Bulk buying is what a dealer would be into if you are to get any "big" discount.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:00 PM
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Old thread that might help - https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthrea...ghlight=dealer
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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:05 PM
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Bought the Superduke from a crowd in the UK. £10,995 asking price. I read the ad wrong and thought it was £10,950. Transferred the bulk of it euro and then sent the collection guy with the remainder (£2450). They made him pay them the extra £45. Wouldn't give him the bike. Even though it was leaving the country. The full service histories etc aren't a guarantee of anything as what I've seen from previous purchases and other people is that it's a stamp, performed generally by either a complete mong or somebody decent - just like here you have no idea half the time.

The good part is generally good condition low mileage bikes and a better selection. The bad part being they don't really care if you don't buy the second hand bike off them. Financing new shit is their main goal, and driving up the registration figures to get franchise bonuses. They'll get rid of the rest eventually

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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crispy
Thanks, I've been through that one, it's really focused on the payment part, I'm wondering what you might offer based on an advertised price...knock off 10% for first offer? 5%?
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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by batman_oh
Bought the Superduke from a crowd in the UK. £10,995 asking price. I read the ad wrong and thought it was £10,950. Transferred the bulk of it euro and then sent the collection guy with the remainder (£2450). They made him pay them the extra £45. Wouldn't give him the bike. Even though it was leaving the country. The full service histories etc aren't a guarantee of anything as what I've seen from previous purchases and other people is that it's a stamp, performed generally by either a complete mong or somebody decent - just like here you have no idea half the time.

The good part is generally good condition low mileage bikes and a better selection. The bad part being they don't really care if you don't buy the second hand bike off them. Financing new shit is their main goal, and driving up the registration figures to get franchise bonuses. They'll get rid of the rest eventually
Cheers...that 's what I was wondering...no negotiation at all on the asking there?
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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:26 PM
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Iíve bought a few from th UK and most dealers are using credit to finance the stock themselves. The outcome is that they are on tight margins themselves and they donít see the money they get, so it is really just throughput for them. The gig bike where house dealers are not for haggling at all, the bean counters tell them exactly what to sell for and they have to do it. Advantage of UK is not a cheaper bike but a better bike.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 04:53 PM
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Ccs have 1 in at the min
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Old 23rd January 2019, 05:25 PM
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Ccs have 1 in at the min
Thanks for the heads-up!
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Old 23rd January 2019, 06:03 PM
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Ami in gorey stock and sell new Aprilias. Was looking at a new v4 Tuono 1100 there today, sounds good with acropovic race pipe.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 06:09 PM
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Aprilia dealer opening in the north next month.Wes McCrum opening in Portadown.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 06:28 PM
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I bought my bike in 2016 from the UK. No discount given and he looked at me funny when I started haggling.

A good idea is to have maybe 2 or 3 bikes, if possible, lined up in the same city. So if the first one is sold at least you have the option of 2 others.

Best thing is to ring a day or 2 beforehand to enquire if it's still available.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by discoblade
All,

I'm thinking of going UK-wards for bike shopping, mostly because you can't get a Tuono V4 in Ireland...

Question is, has anyone any experience of buying 2nd hand from UK dealers? Are they generally open to a discount for a cash deal?
my experience, over several bikes and cages in mainland britain, has been that they don't haggle.. the price is the price. haggling seems to be a bit of an irish thing, you won't buy unless you're getting something off, even if it was a bargain to begin with

even if they were open to negotiations, you have no leverage really as your ability to go home empty handed is slim
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Old 23rd January 2019, 07:33 PM
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Why pay premium to a uk dealer, when the bike will be over here? Not like you're gonna have much comeback if theres an issue. Reckon buying private is the way to go, save yourself a grand. If you can find the right bike of course.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 07:37 PM
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a lot of them wont take cash now they want money transfer and I found there isn't
much of a haggle in them at the end of the day there is not a lot in it if you can just
find a clean well minded machine here and a lot less hassel
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Old 23rd January 2019, 08:09 PM
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Remember correctly a bike from UK a few years back, wired the money and headed over to collect it. When I got there the dealer handed me a bill for 5 quids worth of petrol. I broke me bollox laughing thinking it was a wind up but no he wouldn't hand over the keys without the fiver for the juice.
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Old 23rd January 2019, 08:44 PM
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They won’t budge much I got 300 off 8800 straight deal,tough to deal with
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