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Iíve just stumbled into a situation and Iím looking for someone who can help me with a advice.
Iím looking to purchase a motorcycle from an auction in Bristol UK, now the motorcycleis listed without V5 logbook(was probably lost or stolen) Iíve contacted DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing ) and they told me that I have to apply for an export certificate in order for me to register the bike in Ireland,(which will take 4 weeks to receive it), but what I donít know is, if the bike has no V5 can I bring it in Ireland? and then wait for the export certificate?Will I need the V5 log book when I bring the bike on the ferry? The only paper work I will get with the bike is probably a receipt from auctioneer. Thanks
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

You don't need a V5 to register a bike here. You just need the Cert of Permanent export issued from the DVLA.
Be sure you do your checks beforehand to make sure it isn't listed still as stolen, or the old owner may decide to claim it (rightfully) back.
Use cazana or the vehicle smart app.
DVLA do everything in 5 week blocks. I think it must take the local postie 5 weeks to climb up the hill to their HQ or something.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

You can import any cage/bike into Ireland without V5, where you will be stuck is when you go to register it. You have 30 days to complete the registration process, if not you face penalties, you will most likely still be ok for another few days before you will actually get fines. Your best bet would be to see if the auction site can hold the bike, most do not so your next option would be to import and face the fines, they are not too bad as far as I know. Or forge a transport receipt saying it was only brought in a week ago etc when you go for VRT.
Don't get too hung up on British bikes being cheaper, if you keep an eye out you will probably see an Irish bike for near the same money unless it's a new model/rare.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

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You can import any cage/bike into Ireland without V5, where you will be stuck is when you go to register it. You have 30 days to complete the registration process, if not you face penalties
feck all penalties for bikes usually, took me 2 months to register my last bike, i asked in the centre and they said they dont bother with fines for bikes unless very expensive or in country years.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

Receipt should be fine at the boat,but they probably wont ask. To save some time you could fax the v756 form to the dvla in Swansea.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

Check up on that certificate of export - I think I ran into bother trying to register a cage I bought in the North last year. From memory they wouldn't issue a Certificate of Export to a non UK address.

Seriously - I'd be slow to hand over any monies until you know exactly how the export/import & re-register process is going to work, and what needs down to get the right paperwork.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

They won't issue a V5 to a non UK address but they will issue a cert of permanent export.
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

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Check up on that certificate of export - I think I ran into bother trying to register a cage I bought in the North last year. From memory they wouldn't issue a Certificate of Export to a non UK address.

Seriously - I'd be slow to hand over any monies until you know exactly how the export/import & re-register process is going to work, and what needs down to get the right paperwork.
Yes they will send a cert of permanent export here,I have done it several times.
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You don't need a V5 to register a bike here. You just need the Cert of Permanent export issued from the DVLA.
Be sure you do your checks beforehand to make sure it isn't listed still as stolen, or the old owner may decide to claim it (rightfully) back.
Use cazana or the vehicle smart app.
DVLA do everything in 5 week blocks. I think it must take the local postie 5 weeks to climb up the hill to their HQ or something.
Perfect, will do, they gave me the reg number and vin number for the bike and i'll have that verified before purchase, thanks again
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Old 9th December 2018, 12:29 PM #10
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You can import any cage/bike into Ireland without V5, where you will be stuck is when you go to register it. You have 30 days to complete the registration process, if not you face penalties, you will most likely still be ok for another few days before you will actually get fines. Your best bet would be to see if the auction site can hold the bike, most do not so your next option would be to import and face the fines, they are not too bad as far as I know. Or forge a transport receipt saying it was only brought in a week ago etc when you go for VRT.
Don't get too hung up on British bikes being cheaper, if you keep an eye out you will probably see an Irish bike for near the same money unless it's a new model/rare.

Thanks for advice, Iíll keep that in mind, the bike is at an auction so if ill get the right price will be a good deal. In regards with the transport , I have a week to take the bike out from the auctioneer park before i get charged extra, so after my calculations I shout have the have the certificate export within four weeks.(thatís what they told me at DVLA) fingers crossed. Thanks again
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Old 9th December 2018, 12:31 PM #11
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Receipt should be fine at the boat,but they probably wont ask. To save some time you could fax the v756 form to the dvla in Swansea.
Thanks man, appreciate the tip. I'll try see if would go faster
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Check up on that certificate of export - I think I ran into bother trying to register a cage I bought in the North last year. From memory they wouldn't issue a Certificate of Export to a non UK address.

Seriously - I'd be slow to hand over any monies until you know exactly how the export/import & re-register process is going to work, and what needs down to get the right paperwork.

Iíve spoke with DVLA over the phone already, they said that they will send the certificate with no problem, is just a case of waiting , hope it wont be more than 4 weeks. Thanks
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Re: Buying a Motorcycle without V5 Log Book

Heard today that the DVLA have COMPLETELY STOPPED sending out cert of permanent export, no matter whether you live in the UK, here, or anywhere.
Lots of dealers here who buy secondhand UK almost new vehicles have got seriously burnt by it.

Get the V5 from the seller in the UK. No exceptions. Thats all the NCT can accept.

Did you get your cert yet yam20yam?
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Heard today that the DVLA have COMPLETELY STOPPED sending out cert of permanent export, no matter whether you live in the UK, here, or anywhere.
Lots of dealers here who buy secondhand UK almost new vehicles have got seriously burnt by it.

Get the V5 from the seller in the UK. No exceptions. Thats all the NCT can accept.

Did you get your cert yet yam20yam?
You can apply for the V5C yourself if it comes to it
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You can apply for the V5C yourself if it comes to it
Only if you have a UK address.
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