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Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Lads - thought this came up recently but couldn't find it. Apologies if it's there but I missed it.

If you have to go through the dance above - any idea how long it'd take to get a bike registered to a new owner and relaxed currently ?

Want to do it, but not if I end up being stuck somewhere on the system and not being able to get any tax on the damn thing at all
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

changed ownership on one of my bikes and taxed it recently as i forgot to sorn it, no issues, logbook back in a week
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Go to https://www.motortax.ie/
Click Vehicle Transaction Enquiry
Type in reg
Should tell you if vehicle changed hands recently

Note, this might not be updated immediately. Sometimes I have received logbook before the site was updated.
Should be pretty accurate though.
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Did it last week and it took about a week as stated in first reply.
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Thanks chaps

Slightly too many checkpoints round here to be trying to bluff your way on more than count at a time
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by -alan-
Thanks chaps

Slightly too many checkpoints round here to be trying to bluff your way on more than count at a time
They need your money
I got caught for 2 years worth of back
Money from them.
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Transferred a vehicle last week, not a bother... turnaround times as usual.
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

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They need your money
I got caught for 2 years worth of back
Money from them.
Ouch that hurts

I've two machines here in a similar bracket. Time to get the finger out.
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Wont open another thread..but..

Are you still allowed to travel to purchase tyres/get them fitted under the current Covizbureau rules ?

- And if you are, is there anybody near Dublin still selling and fitting tyres ?
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by -alan-
Wont open another thread..but..

Are you still allowed to travel to purchase tyres/get them fitted under the current Covizbureau rules ?

- And if you are, is there anybody near Dublin still selling and fitting tyres ?
Your definitely allowed as you could make the case the bike is your primary transport and it would be dangerous to not change the tyres now. I believe it's supposed to be a collect and drop off service by the gargage but I'd say if garage is close enough you would be fine. Probably leave it till after the weekend as there are supposed to be loads of checkpoints for the bank holiday again.
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by -alan-
Ouch that hurts

I've two machines here in a similar bracket. Time to get the finger out.
Do what the Op might be doing
And transfer ownership too yourself
And save enough too replace a tyre
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by seano
Your definitely allowed as you could make the case the bike is your primary transport and it would be dangerous to not change the tyres now. I believe it's supposed to be a collect and drop off service by the gargage but I'd say if garage is close enough you would be fine. Probably leave it till after the weekend as there are supposed to be loads of checkpoints for the bank holiday again.
garages were considered essential from the get go. You might need to produce a booking or something like that if you get a more "dedicated" garda
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Originally Posted by jp biker
Do what the Op might be doing
And transfer ownership too yourself
And save enough too replace a tyre
He is the OP
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by -alan-
Wont open another thread..but..

Are you still allowed to travel to purchase tyres/get them fitted under the current Covizbureau rules ?

- And if you are, is there anybody near Dublin still selling and fitting tyres ?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/statutory.html
See S.I. 121 and 128.

My reading of it says that buying tyres may not be a valid excuse
for leaving your place of residence. Going to the bank to get
money (for tyres) is ok.


This suggests that your local bike shop can sell or fix tyres
in an emergency:

11. The following outlets insofar as they offer services on an emergency basis only:

(c) outlets providing for the repair of mechanically propelled vehicles or for the repair of bicycles and any related facilities (including tyre sales and repairs);


Give them a call and ask if they can do it.
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Originally Posted by -alan-
Wont open another thread..but..

Are you still allowed to travel to purchase tyres/get them fitted under the current Covizbureau rules ?

- And if you are, is there anybody near Dublin still selling and fitting tyres ?
Cotters.
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He is the OP
Yeah right, can we be sure ya are not just guessing that.
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Tax Office closed.....
Ah well.....post box beside the door is handy enough.
Had my tax discs in the post to me within 5 days of me dropping stuff into their post box.

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Thanks one and all

Originally Posted by PADDYOT
Cotters.
Looked at them in some services online directory yesterday but it said they were closed. Had a closer look at their own website their and it says they're always closed Monday

Will give them a ring tomorrow see what the score is - thanks Paddy.
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Originally Posted by jp biker
Do what the Op might be doing
And transfer ownership too yourself
And save enough too replace a tyre
On behalf of the OP..

If ..he were considering selling it to himself - same name/same address - surely somebody in officialdom would smell a rat.

Would he not need to use a slightly different variant of the name or address or something so at least it doesn't look like one was taking th p*sh altogether ??
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Originally Posted by -alan-
On behalf of the OP..

If ..he were considering selling it to himself - same name/same address - surely somebody in officialdom would smell a rat.

Would he not need to use a slightly different variant of the name or address or something so at least it doesn't look like one was taking th p*sh altogether ??
send to partner or friend and then send back and no issues,
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Sorry to labour this, but just for clarity:

You'd need to register two change of owners -

(i) the first transfer to a new owner (who couldn't tax the bike unless / until they had an insurance policy in place) and then ..
(ii) a second transfer back to the earlier owner who can then tax the bike afresh, with all insurance and ownership details fully matching and consistent again..

i.e Go through the change of ownership process twice / ownership registration forms sent back to Shannon and reissued twice - over a couple of weeks or whatever their turnaround cycle is currently

Is that right ?
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To avoid that extra owner just transfer it to the Irish version of your name at the same address. Honestly, they don't give a fiddlers in Shannon either way.
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- Go raibh maith agat, agus coinnigh a taobh rubair síos

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I will
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I swapped mine to tax it, and when I renewed my insurance the girl said so you’ve owned the bike since January
I said no I’ve owned the bike over twelve years and she said oh it says here since January
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so there's no issue with me buying my own bike...from myself.....

have people actually done this?

asking for a friend
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Re: Change of Ownership / Tax renewal..

Jesus wept...........Just sell it to your dog or cat c/o the same address.
Then get the dog or cat to sell it back to you.
And then say goodbye to a year or 2s back tax too.

Happy Days.

Or sell it to your wife or girlfriend or your kid....on paper.
And then they sell it back to you....on paper.

It's very easy to do.
It's not rocket science.

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I've a bridge for sale Shane, going cheap so it is
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It's very easy to do.
It's not rocket science.
Or brain surgery.....

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