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Hi all,

I hope everyone is well and keeping safe!

I am looking at bringing in an R1 from the UK over the summer. The Superbike factory in Cheshire is one of the shops I was looking at - they claim to be the biggest UK motorbike superstore and seem to have a lot of high quality machines in stock / good reviews online.

In the current climate it doesn't seem sensible to be jumping on the ferry so I am looking at buying it online and organizing to get it shipped. However this is my first time ordering a bike online and I just thought i'd put up a post to ask a few questions with regard to the process. I must admit I am a tad nervous about spending big money on a bike online even though the bike only has 4k miles on it.

So far this is my plan - feel free to comment if you think it might help,

1) First of all I will do the HPI check, then review the vehicle registration document and ring the DVLA to confirm the details are correct.
2) If all checks out then I need to identify a reputable shipping company to get it here in one piece. If anyone has any recommendations for such a company I would appreciate it.
3) If the above goes well I will leave a deposit of 500 initially to reserve the bike until the delivery driver arrives and can confirm there is actually an R1 that fits the description to take away.
4) Only when the delivery driver calls to the shop and they have an R1 ready to go on the truck will hand over the last of the money. I'm sure the specialist motorbike couriers are used to doing this for high value bikes?
5) I am assuming debit card is the best method of payment in instances like this?
6) The bike I am looking at it in near new condition and comes with a 3 month warranty so I am not too worried about the mechanical side of things - more the financial and shipping.

I might be making a mountain out of a mole with all the questions however as a first timer to online bikes I thought i'd ask a few questions!

Anyway fair play to ya if you managed to read this entire post and thanks for any info you can offer folks. Keep er lit
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What year r1 are you looking at ?
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This perhaps?

https://superbikefactory.co.uk/2014-...th-4518-miles/
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Has the bike enough miles on it to avoid you having to pay VAT?
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Yeah thats the one. She looks the business and mileage is at the right end of things.

Anything I need to be worried about do ya think?
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There'll be others along, but my advice is :
1. Lay down your worries regarding provenance of the bike - if it's for sale in a reputable shop it's a reputable bike. The English are like that.
2. Dunno what you're spending, but there is a limit on a card spend - is it 8 grand - can't remember.? Check it out. You could get a better exchange through an exchange house and save yourself a bit that way.
3. I've used Teds Trucking a few times all good - will do the look-over. For the final payment dunno if a bank transfer will be as quick as the one from an exchange house. Regarding these CurrencyFair is one I've heard of, there are other's. Never bothered with them meself, mind you. Money to be saved there though if you're spending a lot of bucks.
I've always bought private over there, and never a problem. I assume using a retailer is even more straight-forward. Others may know more.
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That's about a grand over priced and you'll spend
A few hundred in shipping plus vrt and tax

Op I've a 13 I'm looking at moving if you want a few pics

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Has the bike enough miles on it to avoid you having to pay VAT?
Good point, apparently you have to have 6000km to avoid VAT. So 4500 miles would be 7271kms.

Thats assuming the rule for a cage is the same for bikes

Source - https://fexco.com/fexco/news/importi...uk-to-ireland/

You may also be required to pay VAT but this is only charged on a new car, for example, in service for 6 months or less or has been driven 6,000km or less. Please note that VAT in this instance is also charged even if it had initially been paid in another EU state.
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That's about a grand over priced and you'll spend
A few hundred in shipping plus vrt and tax

Op I've a 13 I'm looking at moving if you want a few pics
I am still open to options for sure. If you have a few pics do send them onto me.
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I am still open to options for sure. If you have a few pics do send them onto me.
I've sent you a pm
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MB transport for bringing her home, about 250. Have heard great things about Teds trucking too.
I used a bank transfer for the funds, you'll need to speak to the shop and get their bank details (AC number, sort code etc).
I spent a fair bit on a bike in the UK a couple of years ago, it was plain sailing
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Look in to Superbike factory.Have heard mixed reports on them.Some of their bikes leave the showroom in less than roadworthy condition.Have a mate bought a GSXS 1000 and all was grand although after the deal was done they hit him with an "admin" charge of 100.Have spoken to others who had to threaten court action.Apparently they are the retail arm of We Buy Any Bike.As with most things,everybody has their own experiences but personally I don't even look at their site any more as I wouldn't feel 100% confident buying from them.
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Would also be slightly wary of super bike factory, it's a low profit high turnover outfit, most of the time on auto trader etc you'll see their bikes are often the cheapest sometimes even cheaper than most private stuff as well. Not saying there is anything wrong with them just with that style outfit they'll have to save money somewhere. When I brought my bike in I was checking them out and also heard mixed reviews and cases of bikes not being ready, batteries dead when they went to pick it up or the description wasn't completely honest.

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Would also be slightly wary of super bike factory, it's a low profit high turnover outfit, most of the time on auto trader etc you'll see their bikes are often the cheapest sometimes even cheaper than most private stuff as well. Not saying there is anything wrong with them just with that style outfit they'll have to save money somewhere. When I brought my bike in I was checking them out and also heard mixed reviews and cases of bikes not being ready, batteries dead when they went to pick it up or the description wasn't completely honest.
Yeah Id agree with the above. I went in there and the bikes are packed in tight with no real attention paid to condition or minor damage scrapes etc.
You could get a decent bike from them but be sure to thoroughly check it out. Personally I would avoid and seek out a smaller dealer who will give your purchase more individual attention.
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On the delivery front, I regularly browse autotrader and a lot of the shops will deliver anywhere in the uk for a fee. Option might be to get it delivered to Holyhead and pick it up yourself. Obviously when all this hysteria, sorry I meant to say pandemic dies down...
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Look in to Superbike factory.Have heard mixed reports on them.Some of their bikes leave the showroom in less than roadworthy condition.Have a mate bought a GSXS 1000 and all was grand although after the deal was done they hit him with an "admin" charge of 100.Have spoken to others who had to threaten court action.Apparently they are the retail arm of We Buy Any Bike.As with most things,everybody has their own experiences but personally I don't even look at their site any more as I wouldn't feel 100% confident buying from them.

The admin charge of 100 Is on all there bikes
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Bought a heap of bikes from them very sound lads to deal with. I deal with a lad called Mark on the phone and he has never let me down thus far in regards condition. They'll send you high quality pics of any bike if you ask them also. I had a flat battery on a Gsxr1000 i bought from them last year and they told me to buy a motobatt as a replacement and they transfered the funds to me for it.

Ask them to wave the admin fee and they usually do it if you buying without viewing from Ireland. As for transportation give the Bike Bus Company a bell and ask for Tony on 00447555723640. He's brought in my last few bikes for 275 door to door very decent company to deal with and they only deal with bikes so know their stuff.

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8800 seems high for a 6yr old R1, no?
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Good stuff lads. Thanks for the information.

I have a lot of the queries answered now.

I just need to mull it over for the rest of the weekend before I make my mind up -having said that if the weather keeps up it may make my mind up for me

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8800 seems high for a 6yr old R1, no?
Interesting, to be honest I didn't think its too far off the mark now myself.

Same bike on done deal, private sale, no warranty (obviously) and 5 thousand more miles and only 500 quid cheaper.

https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-f...-bang/24604691

I have seen other 12's and 13's seem to be up for between 7-9k over here.

10.5k for a 14' with 4k miles and warranty seems in or around what i'd expect to pay. Not sure if lads have gotten them cheaper is the past?
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What are the conditions of warranty? Most UK dealers would require the bike to be brought back to them unless you have worked something out with them before hand, so I wouldn't be too influenced by it. Most of them unless they are top notch will not help you with the cost of transport either and they will have that written in contract.
At todays rate for aib it will cost you 10289 euro plus vrt and figure 250 at a minimum for transport you are pretty close to 11 I would say, and you don't get to give it a good look over.

Not sure if you are after the old style but I think something like this is better value if you could get it for 13000 and you don't have the hassle of the vrt etc.
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I took the gamble on bringing a bike over from the uk and it worked out gr8 thank god. I purchased in Ritebike in Bradford I think they are supplied by( we buy any bike .com ) & get their best bikes. I used Revolut card card to get 0.92 exchange rate with is the interbank rate saving me hundreds. Teds trucking collected the bike & delivered it to me for 350 euro. I found them very good & will use them again...all in very happy. You can do a same day bank transfer on the Revolut card too...i did it & the money was sorted on the same working day.
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What are the conditions of warranty? Most UK dealers would require the bike to be brought back to them unless you have worked something out with them before hand,
Crowd I bought from (Hunts Motorcycles) said if there was any work needed to the bike during the warranty period to get it done locally, then email them the invoice and they'd pay for it. Ask 'em what the craic is via email so you have it in writing.
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Biggest downside of buying from dealers that size is that there's almost no negotiation on price. I've bought both private and from dealers and both have their own pros/cons (if you're lucky enough to get a sound private seller).

With a dealership, you don't have to sweat in terms of payment the bike actually existing, etc... they would normally sell it with an MOT recently done and serviced, which does give you some basic "piece of mind". They'll usually send you as many pics as you want and most I spoke to with also do detailed videos.

On the other hand with private sellers, if they want to sell and they're not getting "local offers" they'll probably be open for a a bit of hussle and you can get it way cheaper. If you get a seller that has basic understanding of technology and you can get them to work with Revolut or something like that where the payment is instantaneous, that'll give you a piece of mind as you can send your prefered transport guy to give the bike a once over and pay on the spot and collect, this has worked like a charm to me when I purchased the GS. You have to be confortable with the instructions on what paperwork you need, etc as many private sellers won't know exactly what to do shipping bikes out.... for example, they don't need to send the V5 to the office, they only need to send the export portion of it but give you the rest, if they send the V5 as we send our logbooks you'll have some challenges importing/registering the bike.

So yeah... in my opinion it comes down to whatever you can find to match the price and spec that you want. Both have a bit of a risk, but so does buying locally second hand.
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Crowd I bought from (Hunts Motorcycles) said if there was any work needed to the bike during the warranty period to get it done locally, then email them the invoice and they'd pay for it. Ask 'em what the craic is via email so you have it in writing.
I bought from Wheels in Peterborough and they told me to bring the bike back if I wanted the slipping clutch it was delivered with to be sorted under their 3 month warranty (factory warranty was just finished).
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