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Old 12th February 2018, 06:03 PM
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Hi guys

would appreciate some help, had my bike on change for a day due to a flat battery, battery took a charge, removed charge and went to start her, ignition powered up but when i hit the starter i got a "BANG" and that was the end of that. so when i turn on the ignition i am now getting nothing.

i have checked the battery and its showing good condition, i assumed i blew a relay but looking at the HAYNES manual i see there is a PGM F1 30amp fuse, see attached, anyone have any idea where she lives?

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Old 12th February 2018, 06:22 PM
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Under the seat on the Left hand side of the battery ( as sitting on the bike)
Its beside the starter relay under a red clip.
Green 30amp fuse.
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Old 12th February 2018, 06:54 PM
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Old 13th February 2018, 05:52 PM
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thanks guys, ok, so here is the update, fuse good, but that is all, the connectors for the battery relay are corroded, cleaned up as best i can and now have a slow build up of power when i tun ignition on, after about 5 seconds i am getting clicking from one of the other relays, go to hit start and everything goes dark, i feel that the battery relay is fucked, anyone agree?
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Old 13th February 2018, 06:13 PM
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Try a known good battery first - voltage alone does not mean you battery is in any fit shape to do the job.
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Old 13th February 2018, 06:16 PM
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Battery is fucked most likley.
Check the earth to the frame for corrosion too as the slow build up of power is odd.

If this is the FI version take off the tank and look for a load of connector blocks in one place.
Take them all apart and lube them with gt85 or acf 50 if you are feeling posh.
Its a known issue to gather water in the diognostic block connector and cause electricle gremlins.

Get a new battery, clean up those few bits above and report back.
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Old 13th February 2018, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny b
the slow build up of power is odd.
Most likely an artifact of the weak battery - load it and the voltage drops off, give it a few minutes and it recovers to a degree. Evidently enough to fire a relay in this instance.
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Old 18th February 2018, 04:14 PM
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thanks guys, new battery did the trick, cleaned up the electrics and ACF50 on the F1 connector block. all good
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Old 19th February 2018, 01:06 PM
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I'd have a look at the starter solenoid too. They can stick and are only about €40 or so.

Might be worth having one on standby.
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Buy a ZZR1100 and experience what bikes are all about, with real history behind it
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