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Old 10th February 2018, 05:38 PM
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RELISTED
Please - buyers take note, this is a 40 year old motorcycle, its not "as new" it doesn't run as smooth as your mates latest fazer 1000
it run's on four carbs which are the original ones, its not fuel injected, yes it kicks out a bit of smoke on start up and run's a bit lumpy until its warmed up (they all do)

it will need you to work on it,
it will suffer from problems, that's the joy of purchasing a classic bike, its a hands on thing....they drive you nuts...but its enjoyable.

So if you don't have a clue about fixing bikes, sorting faults, then you don't want a classic motorcycle in your garage.
They can be a right pain at times to own...Ask any one who own's one.... Old motor bikes develop faults while they are parked up under a sheet in the garage, Why, i don't know, but they do.... that's the joy of owning a Classic.
So please This time don't bid if you just want a press and go motorcycle, If you do, this one isn't for you...
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Old 10th February 2018, 05:56 PM
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no time wasting please
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Old 10th February 2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kwackquack
no time wasting please
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Old 10th February 2018, 06:44 PM
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Bid? So I will start, 1.
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Old 10th February 2018, 08:31 PM
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not for the faint hearted !!!
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Old 10th February 2018, 10:43 PM
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The guy is correct, classics have a life of their own, like dogs or cats etc..... one will start on the button even if you havent started it for a year (or in some cases 3 years) while others wont start the day after they were running fine. Its a love of it you need, nobody wants hassle from old bikes but they do need a bit of knowledge , skill and patients and sometimes parts and money, they can be a pain and they can be very enjoyable too, its hard work in fairness But worth it for a lot of folk, the alternative for some is to buy a retro looking bike which is NOT the same thing
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Old 11th February 2018, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by VJMC
The guy is correct, classics have a life of their own, like dogs or cats etc..... one will start on the button even if you havent started it for a year (or in some cases 3 years) while others wont start the day after they were running fine. Its a love of it you need, nobody wants hassle from old bikes but they do need a bit of knowledge , skill and patients and sometimes parts and money, they can be a pain and they can be very enjoyable too, its hard work in fairness But worth it for a lot of folk, the alternative for some is to buy a retro looking bike which is NOT the same thing

Any bike with points and condenser is gonna leave you stranded at some stage. Always carry spare condensers, points and plugs... and lots of wire.
It's half the joy of owning an auld bike.
I wonder how many people (not google mechanics) even know what a dwell angle is?

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Old 11th February 2018, 01:50 AM
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Much less shit to go wrong that you can't fix with a basic tool kit. The problem nowdays is that everyone wants the quick fix. Buy a refurb kit for the carbs and spend a day twiddling? Naah. Fuckit. I'll just give the seller shit until he takes it back. Godforbid I might actually learn anything about my vehicle.

In fairness, I don't know too many bikers who wouldnt at least try to fix something basic themselves, but once you go all EFI, TC, multi map, joe blow squeezer modern then even the slightest little thing will cause a headache that you cant fix with a set of points and a condenser.....and a little smear of dielectic grease....at the side of the road.

Jeez, two of my bikes are kick, one is points ignition, 2 are air cooled, 3 out of 4 have carbs and the most complex yoke, arguably, is the Diversion, purely because it's a 4 cylinder.

Does it mean that I dont have as much fun because they break down? Well, yeah, the chop has left me at the side of the road for several hours but that was my fault for not carrying some spare fuses. The XJ shook itself apart for the first week after I got it, but again, my fault for not recognising the shit job the pervious owner had done on assembly. The 93 CR500 motor tried to break my ankle yesterday. Twice.

Do I want to return them to the previous owner? Hell no....that is all part of the game. You bought it, live with the thing. I would rather send pics to the previous lad of where it is now and what it is doing, because I know he would probably be interested.
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Old 11th February 2018, 10:05 AM
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The ebayer was selling an early Goldwing at reasonable money .

Obviously ,any bidder should know that DIY maintenance is going to be everything.

I see owning a classic bike as a life lesson. Nobody is going to fix it for you when it goes wrong. So it is solely up to you to develop the patience and skills to keep it going . Of course ,advice from biker.iers helps a lot.

The same is true for all of life's challenges. Running an old bike teaches you how to conquer such challenges.
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Old 11th February 2018, 10:21 AM
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On the other hand I saw an ad for a bike on DD that went something along the lines of - this bike is 20 years old, it is sold as seen and any problems that you have after buying it are yours now. A deal is a deal, no money back - the wording of the ad didn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Old 11th February 2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by generalisimo muldoon
On the other hand I saw an ad for a bike on DD that went something along the lines of - this bike is 20 years old, it is sold as seen and any problems that you have after buying it are yours now. A deal is a deal, no money back - the wording of the ad didn't exactly inspire confidence.
in a way if its private that goes without saying so saying it means there is defo something wrong or he is sick of lads he sold a motor to bringing it back after a few days with something wrong and looking for there moneys back,

whats the latin sain caveat emptor , shit goes back thousands of years possibly started on some stone carving or paperious script on a load of dodgy Egyptian chariots
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Old 11th February 2018, 12:17 PM
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The problem in Uk and especially ebay listings is that consumer law changed recently and people try and do exploit it. If item/vehicle is not as described or known faults described then you can reject the sale even private sales.
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Old 11th February 2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by yzfr1jon
The problem in Uk and especially ebay listings is that consumer law changed recently and people try and do exploit it. If item/vehicle is not as described or known faults described then you can reject the sale even private sales.
Same as in Ireland, all sales in the state are governed by Sales of Goods Act 1980, even private sales, I guess it's just that it is a pain and an expense to pursue unsatisfactory sales
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:09 PM
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This is way I bought a more modern bike. I used to go for old, low valued bikes with potential, love the old style and had many of them, but anything past changing the oil and brakes was an obstacle to me. you do pick up some tips along the way owning an old bike, but breaking down, parts, in and out of the bike shop takes its toll and not to mention
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Old 12th February 2018, 01:39 PM
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Man, knowing that a pain in the rear is to sell a regular fully functional and hassle free bike is, I can only imagine trying to sell a classic with all its perks.

They're most definitely not for everyone and you see it quite often people selling "unfinished projects" where they either run out of money, patient, time or all of the above.
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Old 12th February 2018, 03:45 PM
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For me, having an old bike with a few quibbles is part of the fun of ownership. I get to know a bike by working on it. You can't expect a forty year old bike NOT to have a few flaws unless you've just paid thousands for a ground-up restoration. It's what makes them interesting. But then maybe I have an unfair advantage because I'm a mechanic. I can understand a seller's frustration from dealing with total assholes & shysters, though. I remember when I bought my old GS 425E that the seller told me that he wouldn't sell me the bike unless I was prepared to get the spanners out myself if something went wrong. He said that several potential buyers had called to see it but he had refused to sell it to any of them because he knew that they would have driven him demented if there had been any problems afterwards. Turns out that he made a wise decision.
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Old 12th February 2018, 09:16 PM
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Don't know why anyone would buy an old bike
Anything old worth buying is generally not cheap, you could get a new bargain for better money and not have as much of a risk of needing to 'fix' it

Usualy buyers know what they are buying.
1. They are never fixed, just adjusted
2. Duct tape, sandpaper, gold cigarette pack paper, 1 plug and some autosol is all that is needed.
3. If the filter gets blocked.. remove it
4. if it won't run, its one of three things .. ever.
5. someone has a spare (That doesn't have a fail time bomb fitted)

Buy a new bike that you don't have to work on
Just need to get it to a dealer to have it plugged in and fork out 50% the price of it on PCBs smaller than you can see after a week of technical diagnostics ... and the manual says 'tyre flat.. insert air, step 2 consult your nearest technology centre'
any you say.. 'thanks, just as well it wasn't an old bike, I'd be broke'.

What is the age where a new bike now becomes disposable as the old work horses can be kept going ... however rough. The money only comes into play if you want to make them new again and don't have the DIY.
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Old 12th February 2018, 09:25 PM
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The reason I like owning more than one bike is that while one won't start or is waiting for some attention another is ready to go. And my 40yo XS is "old reliable" with its kick start
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Old 13th February 2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnpclynch
The reason I like owning more than one bike is that while one won't start or is waiting for some attention another is ready to go. And my 40yo XS is "old reliable" with its kick start
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Old 13th February 2018, 02:57 PM
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Lad in work has a thing for beemers. He bought the brand new big tourer - the 1600 (1800?), but I'd say he's been in on loaners for at least 50% of the time he has owned it, as various things have gone wrong and have had to be fixed under warantee. The latest is the drive shaft, that has to be made specially, as it isn't available off the shelf - bike has been in the shop for a couple of months at least at this stage!
Fucking piss poor
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