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Old 13th April 2018, 07:41 PM
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Default Fuel consumption vs petrol quality

Hi All,

I regularly travel to Limerick from Dublin on a 2006 ER6f. I have noticed of late varying range before the light comes on. Best is 158 miles with fuel light on out of the 15.5ltr tank and worst is 120 miles. All the variables are pretty much the same as I ride consistently at similar speeds and weather conditions are generally good. It seems to make a difference where I fill up. Anyone have similar experience on this?

Cheers
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Old 13th April 2018, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Fuel consumption vs petrol quality

Similar topic on a cage forum recently - one thought was that you usually get better mpg running Limerick to Dublin as you're usually going with the prevailing Westerlies as opposed to heading into them on the way back.

Give the sh*tty aerodynamics of most two-wheeled stuff, the effects would be more pronounced than in the cages.
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Old 13th April 2018, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scarebus03 View Post
Hi All,

and weather conditions are generally good. It seems to make a difference where I fill up. Anyone have similar experience on this?

Cheers

what country are you in bro
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Old 13th April 2018, 08:42 PM
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Yep. Found campus and applegreens to be shite
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Old 13th April 2018, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by corkgsxr View Post
Yep. Found campus and applegreens to be shite
Agree with that, find TED seems to give me better mileage and more zip...after that Topaz.
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Old 13th April 2018, 09:32 PM
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There's alot of bad fuel around these days,I don't know what the fuck is in it besides the obvious dose of ethanol but it doesn't smell right and that's what worries me. I wouldn't imagine the octane rating is too good or reliable either
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Old 13th April 2018, 09:49 PM
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I found the supplier and even the station can make a big difference to fuel economy. Tried Campus once and never again. Usually stick to Texaco and Maxol and use the same stations if possible.
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Old 13th April 2018, 10:35 PM
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texaco and topaz only. i wouldn't use apple green for fuel even if i was giving a voucher for the place, bike gets around 30 miles less per tank from there
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Old 13th April 2018, 10:38 PM
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I noticed when over on the continent I was consistently getting at least 20km more out of a tank doing everything from backroad blasting to motorway cruising.
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Old 13th April 2018, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Fuel consumption vs petrol quality

Originally Posted by scarebus03 View Post
Hi All,

I regularly travel to Limerick from Dublin on a 2006 ER6f. I have noticed of late varying range before the light comes on. Best is 158 miles with fuel light on out of the 15.5ltr tank and worst is 120 miles. All the variables are pretty much the same as I ride consistently at similar speeds and weather conditions are generally good. It seems to make a difference where I fill up. Anyone have similar experience on this?

Cheers
Never ever checked fuel consumption, For me it's the only chance I get to forget the problems and shi# we all have to deal with weekly and just chill out and enjoy the freedom
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Old 13th April 2018, 11:10 PM
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They all sell the same crap to within about 5% quality depending on their international wholesalers, apart from a few of the smaller independents who buy where they can at the best price they can.... and are usually okay.... And then there are the rogues who will take you for about another 5% with additives and that is dealer dependent, not by brand, so it could be anyone.

Shit world we live in, get used to it.
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Old 14th April 2018, 12:15 AM
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I thought it was only dullville owners who worried about fuel consumption.

Every drop of petrol in Ireland comes from the same place, the only difference is additives and percentage of ethanol.

Have you tried filling up at the same place every time and seeing if your mileage varies?
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Old 14th April 2018, 12:53 AM
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I get 100 km from fill to light when sending it on! Tremendous range!!
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Old 14th April 2018, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post

Every drop of petrol in Ireland comes from the same place, the only difference is additives and percentage of ethanol
Good to know. Any idea which brand adds the least amount of ethanol?
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Old 14th April 2018, 04:39 AM
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Good to know. Any idea which brand adds the least amount of ethanol?
Apple green add a shitload. Apart from that I don't know.
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Old 14th April 2018, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post

Every drop of petrol in Ireland comes from the same place, the only difference is additives and percentage of ethanol.
Care to qualify that at all?

Are you saying that all petrol, irrespective of pump brand, is the same bar in country treatment?

I find that hard to believe.
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Old 14th April 2018, 12:09 PM
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Not sure if all of it does but the vast majority comes from the same place here. That's why you see the no name tankers delivering it.
The same tanker will do multiple brand stations.

I think maxol add 5% ethanol to it (or at least they used to)
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Old 14th April 2018, 02:15 PM
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I live near the refinery (Owned by Irving Oil).
Every day I get stuck behind trucks delivering to all the fuel companies. Petrol is petrol. Topaz (Son to be known as Cirkle K), Maxol, Texoil, Applegreen, Top Oil. I get stuck behind all of them.
The Orange ADR code plate on the back tells you what form of mobile explosive you are about to pass.1202 is Diesel. You'll smell it first. It leaks a lot. 1203 is petrol with not more than 10% Ethanol content. 3475 is petrol with more than 10% ethanol.
If it doesn't travel by road from whitegate to your local forecourt, than it travels by sea to the fuel jetties in Galway and Dublin, normally carried by tankers from the Fisher group.
Ironically Whitegate's 50 year old refinery was never able to produce the quantity of Diesel the cages of ireland needed, so most of that fuel was imported from Wales, but now the shift is going back to Irish produced petrol.
So watch the delivery. If the plate on the back says 1203 there isn't much ethanol. If it says 3475 there is a lot. You won't be in Ireland if you see that though. the EU won't allow it yet, and you'll only get it in Sweden, though Germany, France and Finland are in negotiation to allow sale of it as Petrol.
But there is no difference in the fuel you get from Topaz, Maxol or Applegreen. The only difference is how much dirt is in their tank.
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Old 14th April 2018, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Fuel consumption vs petrol quality

Originally Posted by Frisco View Post
Not sure if all of it does but the vast majority comes from the same place here. That's why you see the no name tankers delivering it.
The same tanker will do multiple brand stations.

I think maxol add 5% ethanol to it (or at least they used to)
Theres a lot more than one fuel distribution terminal, IIRC 8 in the republic and I think 4 in the north.
Whitegate(Phillips 66) refinery supplies about 30% of the market here, mostly Munster.
The Valero(Texaco) refinery in Pembroke suppies the bulk of the rest although theres a small but significant quantity coming in from Norway
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Old 14th April 2018, 05:27 PM
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Phillips66 are gone more than a year. Irving Oil from Canada own it now and are pumping lots of money into it to upgrade it.
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