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Old 9th March 2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by proinnsias
Someone at the show put it to me that the average "mint" bike on Donedeal had been in the back of a cement mixer for an hour ... maybe, just maybe, an NBT isn't the worst idea out there?
The nct is a good idea on the face of it but the problem is people think if a cage is tested it's good to go for another year or 2.They don't service or maintain their cages cos they think if it passed the test it doesn't need work.The amount of yokes I see that haven't had an oil change in years is staggering.
And don't get me started on dodgy tests.
For example a customer asked me to look over a cage he was thinking of buying.So this morning I had a walk around and everything looked fine,few dents and scratches but it had a long test.Further examination revealed,a leaking shock,badly perished brake hoses,a wheel bearing hanging out and door hinges worn to f**k,among other smaller issues.If he hadn't asked me to look it over he'd now have his wife driving their kids around in a death trap.I actually thought the test was fake but a quick check on the web says it's genuine.It was tested on 25th Jan,120 miles ago.Meanwhile a neighbour failed because the "Corcaigh" sticker on her no. plate was faded.
This whole survey is a load of crap anyway,they're doing this so they can say they consulted with us.Whatever they have planned is coming anyway weather we like it or not.If the survey was carried out by an independent body it would be more relevant,the rsa will only say what they want regardless of what the survey says.

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Old 9th March 2017, 12:44 PM
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Survey done took about 10 minutes and the comments.
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Old 9th March 2017, 02:59 PM
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Just completed it--its clearly focussed on NBT introduction. The RSA control NCT and CVRT--only a matter of time before NBT introduced with the usual fanfare regarding safety,its in your best interests etc. Given lack of Bike mechanics they will use NCT guys and as RSA aims to charge to keep themselves afloat rather than use taxpayers cash they will charge whatever they like.
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Old 9th March 2017, 03:32 PM
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Hope it doesn't come in anytime soon - all my bikes would fail!
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Old 9th March 2017, 03:42 PM
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Just done it there. It's defo on the cards but is there really that many bikes around that would make it worth while?
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Old 9th March 2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by eyore
Unless they can prove a connection between motorcycle deaths and injuries/accidents and mechanical failure /issues its bullshit.
Motorcyclists don't need this shit, it will do nothing to for safety for the majority of us who ride well maintained bikes , and it certainly wont do anything to make the tiny minority of idiots who will ignore a test anyway.

If they really want to make motorcycling safer they would do better to stop farmers spreading shite on the roads, ban 16 yr olds driving 16ton tractors under rules introduced when grey TVO Masseys were the norm and bring in testing for all agricultural machinery, most of which don't have any proper lighting or decent tyres .
Ban cheesecutter wire central reservation barriers,stop "surface dressing" with gravel, stop putting overbanding everywhere, think about where they put manhole covers. Jasus the list is endless, but no. Its easier to nail us with an un necessary NCT test.
The test is coming in for yractors .doe test .id say this shote survey is aimed at bringing in nbt alright .
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Old 9th March 2017, 03:56 PM
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Well said chopper!
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Old 9th March 2017, 04:13 PM
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Bike test cost in NI ..... 22
Cage test ... .30.50
Light goods ...... 30.50

Cage test IRL. 55.00
Light goods 110.00
Bike test cost????? Probably 45.00
Emmisson tests on after market goodies? Priceless
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Old 9th March 2017, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Chimpo
Bike test cost in NI ..... 22
Cage test ... .30.50
Light goods ...... 30.50

Cage test IRL. 55.00
Light goods 110.00
Bike test cost????? Probably 45.00
Emmisson tests on after market goodies? Priceless
The cage test will soon be run by the rsa directly and you can expect to see a sharp rise in cost.Probably 100E+.Bike test most likely about the same.
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Old 9th March 2017, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Southern Rider
Sooooo, that'll be a no.

Don't they have an MOT for bikes in the UK now? Must look up the charges for that to see what we can expect.

Between the new driver testing, for cages as well as bikes, tax, rising insurance, proposed tests, I guess one day the roads will be empty, soz we'll all have to take public transport.
They have the MOT for bikes in the UK but no emissions test, Thats where the f##ckers here will score and end up forcing older bikes off the road and anyone with a bike with the catalytic convertor removed will be screwed
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Old 9th March 2017, 07:46 PM
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Time well spent filling up the "survey".
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Old 9th March 2017, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kwackquack
It won't happen, there is still no such thing as a qualification as a bike mechanic in Ireland so who is to test them ?
A brand new system to be set up....they discuss it every few years and then it is postponed for another 2 years as it's not financially viable and nobody want to be responsible for it
As far as i know the car NCT is not carried out by qualified mechanics, i know a few lads who are but AFAIK its not a requirement
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Old 9th March 2017, 09:49 PM
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Was up in the cage test center today and they have a big sign on the wall saying that all the testers are qualified mechanics
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Old 9th March 2017, 10:04 PM
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Found it
http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety...clists-Survey/
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Old 10th March 2017, 11:10 AM
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As some colour : Mandatory Roadworthiness testing for bikes was proposed a few years back at the EU level (nothing our lot can do about it)
The RSA objected, curiously! - they can't see it paying its' way (you'll have to have 2 bike-trained mechanics and a dedicated lane in each test centre, for an average of 4 bikes daily !)

Anyway - can was kicked down the road thanks to objections from MAG and our sister organisations under FEMA, who proved it was never a road-safety measure. It's up for review in 2020 or so - with the expectation that it will come in by 2022 or thereabouts.

As for emissions, since most bikes are Euro3 at best, you'd want to be trying hard to fail an emissions test! (and if you do, your bike is likely shot anyway!). Noise test would be no worse than the 100 dB @ 1m test for Mondello etc ... only going to be a few tractors won't make it in under that! (top tip - 100 dB @ 1m is effin loud!)
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Old 12th March 2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by eyore
If they really want to make motorcycling safer they would do better to stop farmers spreading shite on the roads, ban 16 yr olds driving 16ton tractors under rules introduced when grey TVO Masseys were the norm and bring in testing for all agricultural machinery, most of which don't have any proper lighting or decent tyres .
Ban cheesecutter wire central reservation barriers,stop "surface dressing" with gravel, stop putting overbanding everywhere, think about where they put manhole covers. Jasus the list is endless, but no. Its easier to nail us with an un necessary NCT test.
Farmers bringing shite on our roads is a necessary evil.how exactly are they supposed to get spuds, carrots, turnips, , peas, barley, wheat, hay, straw, silage etc the list is endless out of fields that are grown in clay without bringing clay out with them.
Im sure they would love to have a nice clean working environment to grow things in but vegetables needs soil so thats that fucked.
Fact is ireland could do without motorcyclists it couldnt do without farmers feeding the fucking place . We as bikers contribute sweet fuck all to the pot with our measly 88 euro a year tax. Do you realise all the expense farmers have with machinery, diesel, maintenance, labour to deliver a product we all need and couldnt do without?
Having to slow back down to a reasonable speed might be an inconvenience to some but its safer in the long run.
And for 16 year olds driving tractors .there only trying to make a bit of money during the summer , they are a hell of a lot safer tippin along at 30-35 mph than the biker tipping along at 150mph to get his/her kicks and is too cheap or inconsiderate to take it to a track.
And man holes arent just plates of steel on the ground they are access to pipes and services underground. They kinda have to put them over the pipes or they wouldnt be much good
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Old 12th March 2017, 09:28 AM
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Farmers pay tax so should be allowed to spread 6 inches of mud on the road? Go away and fuck your dog. They have an obligation not to leave the road in a dangerous condition and they should do that.
I pay plenty of tax through work and im just as entitled to get to work without being killed by some wankers laziness as any farmer is.
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Old 12th March 2017, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco
Farmers pay tax so should be allowed to spread 6 inches of mud on the road? Go away and fuck your dog. They have an obligation not to leave the road in a dangerous condition and they should do that.
I pay plenty of tax through work and im just as entitled to get to work without being killed by some wankers laziness as any farmer is.
so how exactly is a farmers going to take away a trailer of spuds out of a field without bringing out shite with them????if you cant slow down in time before driving over shite then how could you possibly stop in time if a child,dog,cage walked out in front of ya??and ive never seen 6 inches of shite on the road in my life, some day your not busy park up and watch what has to be done and then come back with ways to clean the tyre tracks of shite before driving out onto the road
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Old 12th March 2017, 09:46 AM
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In the UK, I have seen lots of contractors use a roadbrush system to clean the road and put out signs to warn of danger, the mud only is bad for the first 100metres of exiting a field..It's only right to fix a problem you create and not kill someone
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Old 12th March 2017, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Chimpo
In the UK, I have seen lots of contractors use a roadbrush system to clean the road and put out signs to warn of danger, the mud only is bad for the first 100metres of exiting a field..It's only right to fix a problem you create and not kill someone
thats a good idea that but if we arent willing to follow the rules then they shouldnt have to either
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