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Old 8th April 2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kavo
I've my Honda CTX with the DCT for 3 and a half years now I use it nearly every day all year round and it's never missed a beat. It has nearly 32K on the clock and the only things I've had to sort is normal wear and tear (tyres, chain and sprockets). As some of you know I've a paralysed right arm so throttle etc transferred to the left handlebar it's a great bike for a disabled rider who's thinking of getting to biking after an accident like me. I wasn't interested in having to use throttle, break and clutch all with the same hand so it's perfect for me.

I've been all over Ireland on it a few Revvup runs and different overnighters with other bikers I just stick it into sport mode and I can keep up with most lads on the twisties It has the 700cc DCT engine so can be ridden on an A2 licence we won't talk about lads and lassies leaving me for dead on long straight roads but who cares about those roads
Hi Kavo, I'd PM if this bloody site would recognise me...

Tell me (odd question) do you wear motorbike gloves as a pair, or just the left one?
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Old 8th April 2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by discoblade
Hi Kavo, I'd PM if this bloody site would recognise me...

Tell me (odd question) do you wear motorbike gloves as a pair, or just the left one?
I can only get a proper motorbike glove on left hand. My fingers are always in a fist on right hand so use a normal North Face glove with no inner lining so I'm able to place each finger in correct slot.

When I first went back to biking I got a tailor to sew a zip all down the side to the tip of the forefinger of my right hand motorbike glove this allowed me to open glove right up but it takes a while to get on so only use the North face glove these days
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Old 8th April 2019, 04:18 PM
Dominus Obsequious Sororium Dominus Obsequious Sororium is offline
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Originally Posted by Kavo
I can only get a proper motorbike glove on left hand. My fingers are always in a fist on right hand so use a normal North Face glove with no inner lining so I'm able to place each finger in correct slot.

When I first went back to biking I got a tailor to sew a zip all down the side to the tip of the forefinger of my right hand motorbike glove this allowed me to open glove right up but it takes a while to get on so only use the North face glove these days
I see, good stuff...I'll get to the point now, what size glove do you wear? I have a collection of top-quality (AStars mostly) brand-new left hand gloves, in XXL looking for a new home...
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Old 8th April 2019, 05:01 PM
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Auto 1300FJR, yes its an earlier version so not as sophisticated as the later yolks. Got it super cheap, probably because of the auto, though they are meant to be worth more according to the book values. Once your above 5 mph its fine, however slow speed is not the best. Prefer a clutch, but for what I use it for, works fine. Its a mighty bike, most impressive mile muncher.
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Old 8th April 2019, 07:43 PM
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I like the look African twins (particularly if they have huge knockers)
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Old 8th April 2019, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by discoblade
I see, good stuff...I'll get to the point now, what size glove do you wear? I have a collection of top-quality (AStars mostly) brand-new left hand gloves, in XXL looking for a new home...
Ah fair play mate I normally use medium or large Iíve only dainty little hands

Hate when I have to pay for two gloves when I only use one
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Old 8th April 2019, 08:37 PM
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thats me, (I meant to apologize, and read you last post out of context it was funny in relation to the initial post) sorry!!!!
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Old 8th April 2019, 09:22 PM
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I have the vfr1200 going on 3 hrs now & itíll move like hot shit off a shovel in manual mode using the paddles. Itís great craic when youíre on the move -the gear change is immediate & means you can get up to speed very quickly. You canít feather the clutch so it means youíre more aware of throttle control than on a manual bike. It takes time to get used to it but when you do, you can ride the bike in the much the same way as a manual. I like the dct & coming from someone who likes old school retros, having had 3 Kawasaki zrxs & still has a gsx1400 in the shed, it says a lot for it,imho.
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Old 9th April 2019, 12:38 AM
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I have a DCT Africa Twin and its grown on me, at first I missed the manual but as the weeks went on you get used to it and in sport mode it performs well. There is still the option of full manual mode and a pedal shifter that can be added.

As for reliability theres a chap in Austria (Varahannes)with a DCT Africa Twin with 210,000km on a 2017 bike with little or no problems.

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Old 9th April 2019, 09:55 AM
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Ah fair play mate I normally use medium or large Iíve only dainty little hands

Hate when I have to pay for two gloves when I only use one
No worries...I'll find someone eventually!
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Old 9th April 2019, 10:37 AM
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No worries...I'll find someone eventually!
ive always found the astars 2 sizes smaller than others, xxl = large.
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Old 10th April 2019, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenRex View Post
Auto 1300FJR, yes its an earlier version so not as sophisticated as the later yolks. Got it super cheap, probably because of the auto, though they are meant to be worth more according to the book values. Once your above 5 mph its fine, however slow speed is not the best. Prefer a clutch, but for what I use it for, works fine. Its a mighty bike, most impressive mile muncher.
Spent a week on one of them,it was giving actuator issues but it had decent mileage on it and I donít think the clutch hydraulics had been serviced regularly enough. Pretty neat engineering but I think the fact it was an afterthought adapted to work with an existing engine, it was pretty trick. But thereís an awful lot of individual components. Very advanced stuff for its time though.

Yeah taking away from lights isnít exactly smooth but after that gear shifts are silky smooth. If you like that,youíd love the Dct,still a bit of a lurch taking off from idle on them too,and itís throttle by wire so sometimes overly sensitive on rough terrain
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Old 11th April 2019, 04:10 PM
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same thing....automatic

been using scooters for the last 3 yrs or so for the city and a little motorway, 400's abroad, 250's & 125's here. Plenty of zip, buckets of storage, good mpg. On v long stints on m/ways you'd need the 500/530 xmax or the likes of the new 300 forza scooter. 125 / 250cc's are perfect for crossing the city or zipping in and out to town at the weekends. no brainer if you can stump to it - xmax 125 or forza 125 and having a bike too. im not vain enough to care what anyone thinks , id endorse scooters no end.

of all the bikes ridden , never tried a dct. Id say it would convert me, possibly. But id still need a bike with gears.


what ppl dont realise - sportsibkes will have seamless gearboxes , its coming, so between that and the must have trinkets like quick shifters , we're nearly there already are we not......

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Old 11th April 2019, 04:44 PM
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Not convinced of dct on off road capable bikes. I wouldn't trust one over a manual clutch off road.
On road, fill yer boots. Only thing is that they WILL be worth less than clutch bikes on the used market once they're up in the yrs.
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Old 11th April 2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Holy Moly View Post
Not convinced of dct on off road capable bikes. I wouldn't trust one over a manual clutch off road.
On road, fill yer boots. Only thing is that they WILL be worth less than clutch bikes on the used market once they're up in the yrs.
The DCT is at its best off road, imo.
I just sold my DCT Africa twin, and that bike was a real boon to a novice off roader like me.
I only sold it because of suspect build quality..... I could see it deteriorating despite religious minding.
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Old 13th April 2019, 06:21 PM
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Anyone brave enough to have taken the plunge on an Aprilia Mana?.....
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Old 13th April 2019, 10:36 PM
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Anyone brave enough to have taken the plunge on an Aprilia Mana?.....
I have one and quite like it. They are very popular in France and Italy in particular. Quite like the Honda 750 dct but quicker and more stylish! No issues with it so far, its brilliant around town better than a maxi scooter in traffic. And handles like a regular bike
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Old 14th April 2019, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
I only sold it because of suspect build quality..... I could see it deteriorating despite religious minding.
What kind of religious minding? Incense, mantras, prayers or human sacrifice?

I have a mate who is OCD with cleaning his bikes and kept his AT in a garage with humidifier. Washed and scrupulously cleaned after each use. He is now "negotiating" with the Honda importers for new spokes and rims.
I had a Transalp with similar deterioration and got no joy from them boys.
Didn't stop me buying another Honda though. No I'm not bitter. Not me never
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Old 14th April 2019, 12:21 PM
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What kind of religious minding? Incense, mantras, prayers or human sacrifice?

I have a mate who is OCD with cleaning his bikes and kept his AT in a garage with humidifier. Washed and scrupulously cleaned after each use. He is now "negotiating" with the Honda importers for new spokes and rims.
I had a Transalp with similar deterioration and got no joy from them boys.
Didn't stop me buying another Honda though. No I'm not bitter. Not me never

Similar to your mate. Dehumidifier on 24/7. OCD on cleaning.
Not impressed with the build quality,especially when you look in all the nooks and crannies, so it's been sold to make way for something else.
I also found it somewhat lacking in character,whilst being a very competent bike.
Just not for me.
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Old 15th April 2019, 04:09 AM
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Had a spin on both the AT and Crosstourer 1200 with DCT.

First time I was on the crosstourer going around a round about it decided to change up a gear, which I found a bit unsettling.

Found out after that if you put it in sport it will hold on to the gears longer and stops that kind of thing from happening.

In normal mode it wants to get the bike into top gear as soon as it can.

So when I took the Africa Twin for a spin knowing this it was much better.

I like it.

Seems to be a bit of an attitude towards it? Don't see why there should be, it changes gear much quicker and smoother then any manual.
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