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Old 8th April 2019, 02:17 PM
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Like I said, I find the drop down visor useful.[/QUOTE]

I agree, used tape for years and its not that effective against a low winter sun. Unfortunately my commute is east in the morning and west in the evening. Tinted visors are no good at night so unless you carry two which is also annoying they're of limited use. I find the drop down visor brilliant. As for safety they also won't let you wear Rukka textiles in Mondello does that make them unsafe?

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Old 8th April 2019, 02:50 PM
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Had a Skwal helmet up til recently. Hated it. The vents all went loose so they don't hold position, the original visor snapped and the LEDs they put in then stopped working. Very noisy as well. Went back to AGV.
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Old 8th April 2019, 04:55 PM
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The original poster has ran for the trees since opening this can of worms.

The general consensus is shoei Gt air is the one to beat but its very expensive.

The cheaper option is the Hjc is17 which Is my go to helmet.
I had a few shoei xr1000s and bought the Is17 as a cheaper stop gap but this has now converted me to HJC.

I'm on my second Is 17 and in my opinion it's every bit as good as shoei in low wind noise, comfort and visor insert.
Comfort, light weight, looks good and 5 years of use on an old is 17 before I changed it due to age.

I love shoei lids but not when they are 4 times more expensive than a very close second.

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Old 8th April 2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pedrosixfour
That won't allow me to burble through a town at 30mph on a warm day with the visor up and what is effectively a pair of sunglasses over my own prescription glasses though, will it?

Like I said, I find the drop down visor useful.
Off you go burbling along so.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Japcati
Off you go burbling along so.
And you be sure to take a picture.

Or two.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:13 PM
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I have the Skwal or rather have had two of them. The first must have had a manufacturing defect and broke 2 visors within 2 months so I got that replaced under warranty. Still using the replacement.
The LED's are a gimmick and the forehead LED broke during it's first winter.
Other than that I've found it to be a good helmet, reasonably quiet, I find it comfortable, well ventilated, and the pinsert is great. Sun visor is very handy and the lever is at your left ear and easy to access.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pedrosixfour
And you be sure to take a picture.

Or two.
Sure why not take 3.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Japcati
Sure why not take 3.
Cos I'll be burbling at 30 with my drop down.

You won't have time for three by the time you regain your composure.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pedrosixfour
Cos I'll be burbling at 30 with my drop down.

You won't have time for three by the time you regain your composure.
Enjoy.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:45 PM
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I have both the IS 17 and the RPHA 70, the latter being recently bought. What I found is the Rpha 70 is far quieter than the IS 17 and the cooling vents work far better on the Rpha as well.
The fit seems to be pretty much the same between the two other than the Rpha pressing more on my checkbone's (not painful but has been somewhat uncomfortable on long trips) but this might be down to it being a lot newer and not quite worn in yet.
The sun visor mechanism on the RPHA is far better as well, its way easier to actuate and a lot harder to break. As the little nub after three years finally broke off on the IS17. What I found with the IS17 after a winter is the spring and the slot it slides in become very gritty and not very smooth to move.
The location of the actuator on the RPHA is better as your not having to reach to the top of the helmet and the travel is shorter on the actuator.
The only issue I've had with the RPHA is the visor will not stay open while I'm riding along where as the IS17 will. It seems the RPHAs detents aren't as strong even though the mechanism is practically the same. So you hit a bump or hollow and the visor slaps shut which can be vexing. Not sure if thats a defect with mine or an issue with the model in general.
The RPHA is twice the price of the IS17 and the improvements can be seen for the money. Also if your planning to buy the RPHA the included pinlock is crap so buying an aftermarket pinlock insert is a must if you don't want your visor fogging up. If anyone else has an RPHA 70 I'd be curious to know whether the visor will stay in place while riding with it open.
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Old 8th April 2019, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Japcati
Enjoy.
It's meant to be enjoyable??

Fuck, I've been doing it wrong all this time!

Maybe wrapping my head in insulating tape IS the answer.
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Old 8th April 2019, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by f4fwildcat
I have both the IS 17 and the RPHA 70, the latter being recently bought. What I found is the Rpha 70 is far quieter than the IS 17 and the cooling vents work far better on the Rpha as well.
The fit seems to be pretty much the same between the two other than the Rpha pressing more on my checkbone's (not painful but has been somewhat uncomfortable on long trips) but this might be down to it being a lot newer and not quite worn in yet.
The sun visor mechanism on the RPHA is far better as well, its way easier to actuate and a lot harder to break. As the little nub after three years finally broke off on the IS17. What I found with the IS17 after a winter is the spring and the slot it slides in become very gritty and not very smooth to move.
The location of the actuator on the RPHA is better as your not having to reach to the top of the helmet and the travel is shorter on the actuator.
The only issue I've had with the RPHA is the visor will not stay open while I'm riding along where as the IS17 will. It seems the RPHAs detents aren't as strong even though the mechanism is practically the same. So you hit a bump or hollow and the visor slaps shut which can be vexing. Not sure if thats a defect with mine or an issue with the model in general.
The RPHA is twice the price of the IS17 and the improvements can be seen for the money. Also if your planning to buy the RPHA the included pinlock is crap so buying an aftermarket pinlock insert is a must if you don't want your visor fogging up. If anyone else has an RPHA 70 I'd be curious to know whether the visor will stay in place while riding with it open.
Good, comprehensive review, thanks for that!
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Old 8th April 2019, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny b
The original poster has ran for the trees since opening this can of worms.

The general consensus is shoei Gt air is the one to beat but its very expensive.

The cheaper option is the Hjc is17 which Is my go to helmet.
I had a few shoei xr1000s and bought the Is17 as a cheaper stop gap but this has now converted me to HJC.

I'm on my second Is 17 and in my opinion it's every bit as good as shoei in low wind noise, comfort and visor insert.
Comfort, light weight, looks good and 5 years of use on an old is 17 before I changed it due to age.

I love shoei lids but not when they are 4 times more expensive than a very close second.
Nah, not running for the trees, just busy with "real" life!
Some good recommendations. Just looking for other people's opinion on which lid to go for. Afraid I have nothing else to say on the subject....
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Old 8th April 2019, 07:45 PM
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I can't say how the HJC IS17 is for everyday use as I have never worn it out on the bike (half drunk impulse buy) but quality seems great for the price, if on a budget I would definitely look at the one on sale on here with the extra visors
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Old 8th April 2019, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pedrosixfour
It's meant to be enjoyable??

Fuck, I've been doing it wrong all this time!

Maybe wrapping my head in insulating tape IS the answer.
Only you know the answer to that.
Take care.
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Old 8th April 2019, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaskin71
Hi. I have the IS17 for sale with 2 visors good helmet. Send me pm if you are interested.
What size is that ? I can't seem to PM
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Old 8th April 2019, 09:29 PM
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I've had the IS-17 for a couple of years now and I'm really impressed with it.

I had the significantly more expensive AGV T2 and AGV Ti-Tech before and the IS-17 beats them both hands down.

My only real (minor) complaint is that the vents are not great. The helmet fits really well, is solidly well made (better than both AGV lids) and I buy it again tomorrow.

Given it scored well on sharp, I also have no issues wearing it out on trackdays.

I'm pretty sure you can't use them for actual racing as they don't allow any helmets with integrated sun-visors.
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Old 8th April 2019, 09:33 PM
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Only you know the answer to that.
Take care.
Burble.
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Old 8th April 2019, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pudzey
What size is that ? I can't seem to PM
Hi please see more info here

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=248085

where are you based mate? if close enough you can take it for few days to try it.

cheers

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Old 8th April 2019, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaskin71
Hi please see more info here

https://www.biker.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=248085

where are you based mate? if close enough you can take it for few days to try it.

cheers

Can't view that bud, don't know why I can't send Pm either , based in Tipperary Waterford. And yourself
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