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Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Gonna bite the bullet and tyre fit my own tyres.

What's the worst I can do.

I've no way to balance the tyres and came across this stuff.

Anyone ever use it?
Seems a no brainer if it balances and forms a puncture seal. And there's no weights to fly off.

But does it work or is it another half job?
It's about 40 euro per tyre. I could buy a cheap tyre balancer and weights possibly for that.

https://www.ride-on.com/us/support/t...rcycle-formula
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Id be interested in this also. Ive a rear tyre with 6 pinhole leaks! was debating a new tyre v trying one of these type of products out.

Is it not a total mess for the next tyre replacement?

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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by Chickenhawk
I've no way to balance the tyres....
Get yourself a small-to-medium size planet.

Manual/Static wheel balancing is easy to do and very
accurate. A wheel balancing rig is nice to have, but not
essential. A couple of axle stands and a straight steel
bar will do the job. I use a long extension bar from a 1/2"
socket set.

Anyone ever use it?
Seems a no brainer if it balances and forms a puncture seal.
I can see how it would act as a puncture seal. I don't see
how it could correct imbalance.

And there's no weights to fly off.
This is not really an issue with a typical bike wheel. Weights
are stuck on the inside of the rim where centrifugal force
tends to keep them in place. I haven't lost one yet.....

It's about 40 euro per tyre.
Fuck that!

I could buy a cheap tyre balancer and weights possibly for that.
Extension bar or jack handle. Axle stands if you have them, otherwise
you can use a pair of identical kitchen chairs.

Your local friendly tyre shop will give you some weights. I had to
threaten the guy in the tyre shop with violence before he
would accept a few quid for a couple of strips of weights.
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https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikeext...usual/24185881

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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Excellent.

Thanks a mill lads.
Looks doable. It never occurred to me its that simple to balance a tyre.

80 euro to go to the price of the tyres. Cha ching.
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Originally Posted by Big H
Not even worth fucking about trying to make one at that price.
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If your bike has TPS do not put sealant in there
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by Confusion
Get yourself a small-to-medium size planet.

Manual/Static wheel balancing is easy to do and very
accurate. A wheel balancing rig is nice to have, but not
essential. A couple of axle stands and a straight steel
bar will do the job. I use a long extension bar from a 1/2"
socket set.



I can see how it would act as a puncture seal. I don't see
how it could correct imbalance.



This is not really an issue with a typical bike wheel. Weights
are stuck on the inside of the rim where centrifugal force
tends to keep them in place. I haven't lost one yet.....



Fuck that!



Extension bar or jack handle. Axle stands if you have them, otherwise
you can use a pair of identical kitchen chairs.

Your local friendly tyre shop will give you some weights. I had to
threaten the guy in the tyre shop with violence before he
would accept a few quid for a couple of strips of weights.
Or you could just put the wheel on the bike , keep bike on stand ,leave calipers off and spin the wheel. When it stops mark the closest part to the ground,spin again, if it lands in same spot then put a weight opposite that spot and go again.when it stops with random spots ending closest to ground its balanced.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

I'm going to do the same , bought a decent set of tyre levers on ebay on a few days ago
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by DavyH
If your bike has TPS do not put sealant in there
How so?
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How so?
It destroys the sensors...and they can be upwards of 150 squids each
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I have a balancing spindle you put tyre on and then put onto paddock stand.
And weights.

You can borrow spindle and take a few weights
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Is it trickier to change them if you have tubes?
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by chopper
Or you could just put the wheel on the bike , keep bike on stand ,leave calipers off and spin the wheel.
I saw a Jawa 350 parked on the centre stand
outside the venue for the Youghal vintage run. There was
no sign of the rider, but the front wheel was spinning away
like a perpetual motion machine. An impressive example of
low friction bearings and perfect balance.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by woodsman
Is it trickier to change them if you have tubes?
Changing tyres or the balancing? Changing tyres with tubes is a bit of a pain, trying not to pinch it etc. Don't know about balancing, I've never bothered as all the tubed changes I've done have been either dirtbikes or dual sport where the knobblies will knock your teeth out let alone a small bit of wobble from imbalance.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

No tpms sensor on my yoke. Is a tubeliss though.

I've some axel stands and extension bar and I'll give the balancing a shot. Cheers for the offers though.

Ordered the front tyre, was gonna get a different rear to try but it'll probably not see the use of it now. Ordered the levers, and weights too.

Just time to wait for the bits now.

Cheers lads
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by chopper
Or you could just put the wheel on the bike , keep bike on stand ,leave calipers off and spin the wheel. When it stops mark the closest part to the ground,spin again, if it lands in same spot then put a weight opposite that spot and go again.when it stops with random spots ending closest to ground its balanced.
This makes sense.

K. I. S. S.

Keep it simple stupid.
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The hard part of changing tyres is breaking the bead. You need a bead breaker.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Also unless you have a wheel stand; remove the brake disks before trying to work on the tyre.
Very easy to bend the disk if you lay the wheel on the ground.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by dukeNblade
The hard part of changing tyres is breaking the bead. You need a bead breaker.
True, you can use a couple of g-clamps to break the bead.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by Pumbaa the warthog
True, you can use a couple of g-clamps to break the bead.
I use a long timber (the leg of an old bed) as a lever and
a few smaller blocks of timber to support the rim. This will
break down a bead in a few seconds. But then, I am 'gravitationally gifted'
at well over 1kN.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Motion Pro bead breakers and levers ordered with the tyre. The fronts a 21 and its supposed to be a soft tyre so hopefully it's not a struggle.

Made up this snazzy road jack I saw on another site.
Had the crutches lying around the house from before.
I was actually gonna pay for one of these.......https://megabikes.ie/bike-it-snapjac...otorcycle-lift

But I reckon this is an even better jobbie. And it was free.
Well chuffed.






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Made up this snazzy road jack I saw on another site.
I've used that idea at home for cleaning the chain.

Don't push your luck with that, there's every chance the bike will roll off that setup while ya work on it. If the roll is forward, the sidestand will fold up enough to allow precious to fall. Basically, the bike has easy potential to fall to either side from that setup.
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I've used that idea at home for cleaning the chain.

Don't push your luck with that, there's every chance the bike will roll off that setup while ya work on it. If the roll is forward, the sidestand will fold up enough to allow precious to fall. Basically, the bike has easy potential to fall to either side from that setup.
The similar idea ajustable one I bought for the babydero came with a velcro for the front tire. I think they advised to run the wheel vs a wall too.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Yeah it's a bit sketchy with the rear up.
Bike wants to twist forward into the stand. Against a wall or with front brakes on would deffo help.

Front up seems much more solid.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Originally Posted by Confusion
I saw a Jawa 350 parked on the centre stand
outside the venue for the Youghal vintage run. There was
no sign of the rider, but the front wheel was spinning away
like a perpetual motion machine. An impressive example of
low friction bearings and perfect balance.
Funny, I had a 175 jawa yrs ago that did the same
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

Done and dusted.
Took an hour and a half. Only :)

Went for quick test and it's running smooth.
Brakes straight.
Took it to 140kph and it felt a more weave than normal.
Then went to 130kph on hard acceleration and got a speed wobble. Smallish but bigger than I've gotten with any other tyre.

The new tyre is heavier than the last.
Is this a new tyre thing or have I maybe balanced it wrong.

It rides smooth as silk up to 120 and brakes straight hard.
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Re: Ride on tyre sealant and balancer.

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Then went to 130kph on hard acceleration and got a speed wobble. Smallish but bigger than I've gotten with any other tyre.
I would expect the opposite, erratic handling on the old worn tyres
and that lovely 'new tyre' feeling on the new ones.

Check everything carefully.

Tyre beads seated correctly on the rims. Use the line between
the sidewall and bead as a guide. This should be equally spaced
from the rim around the entire wheel circumference on both sides.

I'm not sure it fits the symptoms, but if the tyres are directional,
make sure they are fitted the right way around.

Make sure the tyres run true when you spin the wheel.

Check rear wheel alignment, particularly if you had to
disturb it to remove the wheel.

Wheel and steering head bearings.

Tyre pressure.

Wheel balance.
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Originally Posted by Chickenhawk
Done and dusted.
Took an hour and a half. Only :)

Went for quick test and it's running smooth.
Brakes straight.
Took it to 140kph and it felt a more weave than normal.
Then went to 130kph on hard acceleration and got a speed wobble. Smallish but bigger than I've gotten with any other tyre.

The new tyre is heavier than the last.
Is this a new tyre thing or have I maybe balanced it wrong.

It rides smooth as silk up to 120 and brakes straight hard.
How did you balance it?
Did you line up the balance dot on the tyre with the valve (or the heaviest part of the wheel) or wherever the tyre manufacturer says it should be?
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