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Old 12th April 2019, 09:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure Motobatt don't make gel batteries.
did a deeper dive into their site and it looks like a heap a woo-woo hocus pocus bullshit tbh. AFAIK gel means silica gel thrown into the electrolyte to stop it sloshing around. No mention of that. I think their usp is that they're yankee and their yellow. Hah, beat that.
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Old 12th April 2019, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the dessert fox
did a deeper dive into their site and it looks like a heap a woo-woo hocus pocus bullshit tbh. AFAIK gel means silica gel thrown into the electrolyte to stop it sloshing around. No mention of that. I think their usp is that they're yankee and their yellow. Hah, beat that.
I don't know why people rate Motobatt batteries. From personal experience they're a bit shit.

I think a lot of people seem to think that AGM batteries are the same as gel batteries. They're nothing like the same. Most bike batteries are AGM (absorbed glass mat) It's just fibreglass filling the spaces. Gel batteries aren't AGM batteries.
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Old 12th April 2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
I don't know why people rate Motobatt batteries. From personal experience they're a bit shit.

I think a lot of people seem to think that AGM batteries are the same as gel batteries. They're nothing like the same. Most bike batteries are AGM (absorbed glass mat) It's just fibreglass filling the spaces. Gel batteries aren't AGM batteries.
Yeah, it was off an ebay pitch I bought the gel angle, lol. But they're yellow, it's got to count for something
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Old 12th April 2019, 10:20 PM
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Yeah, it was off an ebay pitch I bought the gel angle, lol. But they're yellow, it's got to count for something
You can always tell if a lead/acid battery is a good on by picking it up. If it's heavy (like a Yuasa), it's probably good, because it probably has a lot of lead in it.
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Old 12th April 2019, 11:24 PM
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Motobatt do make Gel batteries. There has been a reasonably high failure rate of Gel Batteries as they are delicate enough, fast charging or fast discharging can damage them and make them fail even after little use. Some manufactures have stopped using them and switched to AGM type. My own preference is Yuasa purely because of its high cranking amps for starting.
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Old 13th April 2019, 12:16 AM
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Motobatt do make Gel batteries. There has been a reasonably high failure rate of Gel Batteries as they are delicate enough, fast charging or fast discharging can damage them and make them fail even after little use. Some manufactures have stopped using them and switched to AGM type. My own preference is Yuasa purely because of its high cranking amps for starting.
I thought they only made AGM. Gel batteries are dog shit. I'm surprised anyone's making them for bikes.
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Old 13th April 2019, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
I thought they only made AGM.
I don't think they make anything. They make batteries in the
same way Apple make iPhones. Motobatt is a US company, but
the batteries are made in China.

http://www.motobatt.com/

They only seem to sell AGM and Lithium batteries.
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Old 13th April 2019, 01:43 AM
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They no longer appear on their site and now sell their batteries as AGM gel, just to add to the confusion.
Total agree that real Gel batteries are crap for use in Bikes. Apparently Snell still appear to make/sell them giving a 3 year guarantee with them, how long that will last remains to be seen. Gel are probably ok in UPS systems where they would not get the same abuse as in bikes.
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Old 13th April 2019, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Confusion
I don't think they make anything. They make batteries in the
same way Apple make iPhones. Motobatt is a US company, but
the batteries are made in China.

http://www.motobatt.com/

They only seem to sell AGM and Lithium batteries.
Originally Posted by Unfazed
They no longer appear on their site and now sell their batteries as AGM gel, just to add to the confusion.
Total agree that real Gel batteries are crap for use in Bikes. Apparently Snell still appear to make/sell them giving a 3 year guarantee with them, how long that will last remains to be seen. Gel are probably ok in UPS systems where they would not get the same abuse as in bikes.
That pretty much sums up Motobatt (IMHO). Ooooooh, they're yellow! They must be great!
No! They're dogshit. Made in China dogshit. They might be a bit cheaper than Yuasa, but if they're dogshit and leave you stranded, they're worse than free.
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