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Duke RR 27th August 2019 09:41 AM

Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
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I know there was talk on the news re import duty & vat etc on goods ex UK if they leave the dictatorship ( its gone too far now i think ? ) EU ....this is nothing new and has been ongoing for months now if not longer. For a long time now , the clowns who run the state here have been gearing up for it.




My question is, would you pay VAT as well as VRT on a bike ex UK or NI , OR would it be just that bit too much for you to do ?

the last few bikes ive bought over the last few years, all ex UK or up north. Main reason, in better nick, looked after, serviced on time etc.

the problem with the VAT on importing a bike ( if this comes to fruition ) , its going to drive prices way up obviously. At the moment if you look at DD , majority of ppl think they can price bikes here in tandom with the UK market is , but it doesnt work that way. Ive seen 10 yr old 600's here , and more , for 4 / 5k :lbhbh: both private and wholesale ! \(")/ Re [I]premium brand[/I] You only have to look at used prices of almost new german bikes from dealers, wtf are they on ??!! But they are not alone. A bit like biting the hand that feeds you is it ?

i think myself id still go further afield, but less often, or I'd throw my hat in and piss about on a 300 cc honda forza.

what say you ?

Luki 27th August 2019 09:59 AM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
I think I'll be going to France/Germany instead on UK after Brexit. Irish bikes don't tend to have a service history. I'd rather travel and get something with a recent MOT/Contrôl Technique/TUV and decent level of service record.

Its only a matter of time before we end up driving on the other side with cage imports.

scorpy 27th August 2019 11:06 AM

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No. We get fleeced enough as is. I have no problem with going further afield to find a decent bike and ride it back. Sites like autoscout give you a decent idea of what's out there and where it is. Some real gems on the too.

TuneR 27th August 2019 02:16 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
If Brexit does come in it'll be (bike+shipping)*customs*VAT so you'll more than likely be cheaper getting it in Europe and the UK will be priced similar to places outside the EU like Japan.

E.g. if you buy a €5k bike and have it shipped over for €350. Total cost would be (5000+350)*1.1*1.23=€7238.55+VRT. Saucy. Thats if you get it shipped and im not 100% of the customs rate being 10%.

Outaline 27th August 2019 06:56 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
There will be some sort of trade deal done regarding VAT there has to be , Germany relies too much on exports to the UK of new vehicles and vice Vesa UK to Europe of machinery and other goods .There will be a compromise not based on what suits Ireland but much bigger economies .
Regarding bikes I don’t know why more people just don’t go to the continent anyway better bikes there imo .

bandit0 27th August 2019 09:17 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the government pull some stroke/tarriff in the budget to appease the cage dealers who are crying over uk imports. Unfortunately we'll get caught in the crossfire regardless of which way brexit goes.

featherduster 27th August 2019 09:58 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=bandit0;3578796]I wouldn't be surprised if the government pull some stroke/tarriff in the budget to appease the cage dealers who are crying over uk imports. Unfortunately we'll get caught in the crossfire regardless of which way brexit goes.[/QUOTE]

cant understand that as all the cage garages are importing Brit cages already
just have a look around the main dealers and theres loads of cages imported on the fore courts
easy to spot as they are all in MPH
Advert on the wireless then telling us " I imported a cage recently and now theres a light on on the dash and I have no comeback " paid for by simi
Crying over uk imports and they are at it themselves

swanny 28th August 2019 08:31 AM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
It'll be interesting to see what exactly the details will be, but any bike sold in GB in since they joined the single market should have had VAT paid on it already? and therefore not be liable? duties and malarkey like that maybe. Happy enough to head to Europe myself too. The setup for VRT on bikes is sweeter than on cages, so the lack of steering wheel side is a double bonus! A buddy of mine claims to have saved near 2K buying secondhand in Germany.

Jack stowage 28th August 2019 08:44 AM

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I love when guys come on here to the safety of the group slagging off DD prices..like if you're going to sell your bike you'll "give it away"...cop the fuck on will ye....:rolleyes2:

SUGS 28th August 2019 09:23 AM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=bandit0;3578796]I wouldn't be surprised if the government pull some stroke/tarriff in the budget to appease the cage dealers who are crying over uk imports. Unfortunately we'll get caught in the crossfire regardless of which way brexit goes.[/QUOTE]

..main cage dealers have been doing this for some time now .. great idea as basic specs are much higher in the UK than rip off Ireland.

..ticking time bomb is the PCP bubble.

Rainman 28th August 2019 10:11 AM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=Outaline;3578790]There will be some sort of trade deal done regarding VAT there has to be , Germany relies too much on exports to the UK of new vehicles and vice Vesa UK to Europe of machinery and other goods .There will be a compromise not based on what suits Ireland but much bigger economies .
Regarding bikes I don’t know why more people just don’t go to the continent anyway better bikes there imo .[/QUOTE]

I think the idea of Europe being forced into a trade deal with the UK because of car exports is more wishful thinking by Brexiteers than reality, The reality is that Europe is laughing it's hole off at what is going on in the UK at the moment and will be offering nothing until after the meltdown in Government kicks in, when it'll be odds on that another referendum will be called, and if this is returned as remain, the humiliation will be complete, with the UK having to crawl back, cap in hand, saying sorry, a situation that is all of their own making.

paudy 28th August 2019 12:03 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=Rainman;3578812]I think the idea of Europe being forced into a trade deal with the UK because of car exports is more wishful thinking by Brexiteers than reality, The reality is that Europe is laughing it's hole off at what is going on in the UK at the moment and will be offering nothing until after the meltdown in Government kicks in, when it'll be odds on that another referendum will be called, and if this is returned as remain, the humiliation will be complete, with the UK having to crawl back, cap in hand, saying sorry, a situation that is all of their own making.[/QUOTE]

I dont agree with you, europe isnt laughing thats wishful thinking, we are europe and there is not 1 irish company laughing, trade deals will need to be done, europe is going to hold out till the bitter end with any deals, if they cut deals with england then a lot more countries will threaten to leave, europe isnt some sort of utopia it is a sham held together by pooling resourses and trade deals, as resources dwindle its going to start to crumble, the only thing that will keep it together then will be the treat of war, but by that stage russia or china will be playing a far biger role in the running of europe, we might be better of leaving with england and creating a new version of the commonwealth , cutting deals with canada, america, pakistan etc, then watch as europe falls, the reality of it is its all bullshit, jumping tru hoops to look like there is special deals and taxes, when American, chinese etc companys just set up here with out paying any tax any way so in effect bypassing the supposed taxes , penalties , tariffs what ever you want to call them

Rainman 28th August 2019 12:15 PM

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By Europe I'm talking about mainland Europe, not Ireland, and they are most definitely laughing their asses off at the UK, a quick look at the performance of the clowns in the Circus at SW1 this morning will verify this, unfortunately we are the saps that will suffer most, being 1% of Europe we are irrelevant, as for rejoining the commonwealth, yeah OK, good luck with that.

renniks 28th August 2019 12:15 PM

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[QUOTE=paudy;3578818]we might be better of leaving with england and creating a new version of the commonwealth , cutting deals with canada, america, pakistan etc, [/QUOTE]

that would be a ridiculous thing for Ireland to do
more likely would be NI leaving the UK, possibly along with Scotland, as neither are viewed as important through English eyes - they certainly don't get an equal share of funds from Westminster

renniks 28th August 2019 12:18 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=Rainman;3578819]By Europe I'm talking about mainland Europe, not Ireland, and they are most definitely laughing their asses off at the UK, a quick look at the performance of the clowns in the Circus at SW1 this morning will verify this, unfortunately we are the saps that will suffer most, being 1% of Europe we are irrelevant, as for rejoining the commonwealth, yeah OK, good luck with that.[/QUOTE]

If it weren't for the fact it affects us so directly, I'd be pissing my self laughing too.

Fact is, the UK still has delusions of grandeur, but are living off past 'glories' - what we are seeing is the death throes of their Empire

SUGS 28th August 2019 02:30 PM

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[QUOTE=renniks;3578822]If it weren't for the fact it affects us so directly, I'd be pissing my self laughing too.

Fact is, the UK still has delusions of grandeur, but are living off past 'glories' - what we are seeing is the death throes of their Empire[/QUOTE]

..the return of the British Empire....!! C'mon chaps monocles at the ready.

renniks 28th August 2019 03:03 PM

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[QUOTE=SUGS;3578827]..the return of the British Empire....!! C'mon chaps monocles at the ready.[/QUOTE]

spiffing show dear boy, wot wot wot

Jack stowage 28th August 2019 03:17 PM

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I'm in....everything i buy is in the UK or China anyways....fuck the Beurocunts...:smileee:

paudy 28th August 2019 03:47 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=Rainman;3578819]By Europe I'm talking about mainland Europe, not Ireland, and they are most definitely laughing their asses off at the UK, a quick look at the performance of the clowns in the Circus at SW1 this morning will verify this, unfortunately we are the saps that will suffer most, being 1% of Europe we are irrelevant, as for rejoining the commonwealth, yeah OK, good luck with that.[/QUOTE]

exactly, whats in it for us now, no road links to anywhere only england, min 3 day boat ride for exports to avoid uk, any exports tru uk will be delayed, are we even 1%, once multinationals start leaving ireland for mainland whats left here, farming will be going next, rural country is still suffering from the recession, plenty of areas no employment most commuting to cities, we obviously will have have to come up with a better name then the commonwealth, it must still evoke bad feelings amongst the older in society

renniks 28th August 2019 03:55 PM

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Commonwealth = "We'll plunder all your natural resources (and maybe even some slaves), bringing wealth to England & fuck the rest of you"

renniks 28th August 2019 03:56 PM

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The cheeky blonde cunt even has the neck to blame Ireland over the backstop! Unbelievable...

renniks 28th August 2019 04:02 PM

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The blonde cockwomble has only gone and got parliment suspended! Looks like a No-deal exit is the most likely outcome now - I hope all the racist cunts will be happy when the UK goes to absolute shite.
Expect to see Sterling tank very soon

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632"]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632[/URL]

SUGS 28th August 2019 04:22 PM

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[QUOTE=renniks;3578834]Commonwealth = "We'll plunder all your natural resources (and maybe even some slaves), bringing wealth to England & fuck the rest of you"[/QUOTE]

[url]https://youtu.be/cOfffyn4SWI[/url]

renniks 28th August 2019 04:35 PM

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[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA[/URL]

vifferman 28th August 2019 04:58 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=renniks;3578836]The blonde cockwomble has only gone and got parliment suspended! Looks like a No-deal exit is the most likely outcome now - I hope all the racist cunts will be happy when the UK goes to absolute shite.
Expect to see Sterling tank very soon

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632"]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632[/URL][/QUOTE]

Do you believe everything the BBC tells you.:rolleyes2:

Rainman 28th August 2019 08:51 PM

Re: Brisket : VAT on an imported bike - would you pay it ?
 
[QUOTE=paudy;3578832]exactly, whats in it for us now, no road links to anywhere only england, min 3 day boat ride for exports to avoid uk, [/QUOTE]

Em, not really, Cork to France is 13 hours.

renniks 29th August 2019 08:46 AM

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[QUOTE=vifferman;3578845]Do you believe everything the BBC tells you.:rolleyes2:[/QUOTE]

better than some cunt down the boozer or a taxi driver

feel free to post a link to your preferred 'woke' news site

paudy 29th August 2019 10:10 AM

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[QUOTE=renniks;3578876]better than some cunt down the boozer or a taxi driver

feel free to post a link to your preferred 'woke' news site[/QUOTE]

had a bit of time for your arguments till i read that, wtf is a woke news site, fucking snowflakes

renniks 29th August 2019 11:00 AM

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[QUOTE=paudy;3578890]had a bit of time for your arguments till i read that, wtf is a woke news site, fucking snowflakes[/QUOTE]

triggered by the word 'woke'? - and you call me a snowflake! :lbhbh:

SUGS 29th August 2019 11:08 AM

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:jerry::jerry:


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