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MJK 25th September 2019 02:46 PM

2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
These reviews cover bikes that are way, way outside my league, but might be of interest to some folks here...

[URL="https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/2020-honda-africa-twin-crf1100l-adventure/"]https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/2020-honda-africa-twin-crf1100l-adventure/[/URL]

[...As we enter the introductory year of the new Euro 5 norms, Honda updated the Africa Twinís engine extensively. Stroked out to 1084 cc, it now produces 100.6 hp (75 kW) at 7,500 rpm and 105 Nm (77.5 lb.ft) at 6,250 rpm. Gaining some 6.7 hp (5 kW) and 6 Nm (4.4 lb-ft) over the previous 998-cc version doesnít seem to be much, yet stretching the piston stroke from 75.1 mm (2.96 in) up to 81.5 mm (3.21 in) should make for a considerably beefier midrange.]

[URL="https://newatlas.com/bicycles/juiced-bikes-scorpion-ebike-moped/"]https://newatlas.com/bicycles/juiced-bikes-scorpion-ebike-moped/[/URL]

[...In the battle of the uber-practical half-e-bike, half-moped urban getabout, Juiced Bikes has fired its latest salvo. The Scorpion is a comfy, step-thru, twin-suspension, scooter-tired beast with a Bafang hub drive, a big battery and a ton of attitude.].

- Mike

seano 25th September 2019 04:57 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
Euro 5 will have the opposite effect than desired by the eu. Manufacturers have upped cc and power to cope with the cats and even more choked up exhausts which is initially good for emissions, but a lot of bikers are gonna put on full systems anyway, leading to more emissions than the euro 4 bike equivalent. I'm not complaining you'll get massive gains when you do a bit of work. 2020

vifferman 25th September 2019 07:00 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
Blah blah blah.......
At the epicenter there's a Bosch MM7.10 six-axis Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU)
Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC)
Cruise control,
Wheelie control,
Rear lift control
Three-stage cornering lights (WTF)
Four levels of power,
Three levels of engine braking

The rider can monitor and adjust all this information via handlebar controls and a 6.5-inch color TFT touchscreen, equipped with Bluetooth connectivity and Apple CarPlay

FFS, what happened to learning to drive the bike yourself and how can you ride a bike and fuck around with a touchscreen.:rolleyes2:

Dirtyshirt 25th September 2019 09:32 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
Long way home did a good review on Yoootoob. To me the more interesting mention, as well as the improved @ was the mention of a mid sized version to replace the honda trannie.

renniks 26th September 2019 09:38 AM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=vifferman;3580385]

FFS, what happened to learning to drive the bike yourself and how can you ride a bike and fuck around with a touchscreen.:rolleyes2:[/QUOTE]

Fucking dirty crApple touchscreen too...

I'd choose the Yammy Tenere 700 over the new Twin, as there is a lot less techno-shite involved

Japcati 26th September 2019 01:58 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
Somebody stuck a Honda badge on a Yamaha Tenere.

Japcati 26th September 2019 02:00 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
Good love the next generation of bikers.
Stick them on an Aprilia RS250 2 stroker,and they wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do or how to ride it.........

renniks 26th September 2019 03:56 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=Japcati;3580422]Good love the next generation of bikers.
Stick them on an Aprilia RS250 2 stroker,and they wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do or how to ride it.........[/QUOTE]

This looks the perfect tool for them - it'll follow them around as they walk with their head down looking at their phone, while they deafen themselves by streaming the latest shite to their oversized headphones...

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okf283Ct-NY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okf283Ct-NY[/URL]

Admin 26th September 2019 09:03 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=vifferman;3580385]Blah blah blah.......
At the epicenter there's a Bosch MM7.10 six-axis Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU)
Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC)
Cruise control,
Wheelie control,
Rear lift control
Three-stage cornering lights (WTF)
Four levels of power,
Three levels of engine braking

The rider can monitor and adjust all this information via handlebar controls and a 6.5-inch color TFT touchscreen, equipped with Bluetooth connectivity and Apple CarPlay

FFS, what happened to learning to drive the bike yourself and how can you ride a bike and fuck around with a touchscreen.:rolleyes2:[/QUOTE]

Said the fooker posting this from his iphone,. why dont you send us smoke signals or cave drawings to make your point instead ?

It's assisted AI that improves the user experience and make riding safer and faster.

I heard Bosch are testing a new massage-seat integrated ECU with mid-corner sac adjustment to stop the testies squeezing up against the petrol tank, which studies have shown can lead to slower speeds on the road along with erectile dysfunction, and the early onset of baldness and dementia, evidence of which is extremely prevalent at every bike rally up and down the country.

DavyH 27th September 2019 12:19 AM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
In an era of 150hp adventure bikes and 220hp sportbikes itís comforting to know youíve got a friend doing some maths under your sphincter. It all seems like overkill from the outset,but in practice these are some phenomenal systems,thereís nothing new about them either,Aprilia has been using an IMU since 2010 or 2011. They work,and they work pretty fucking good too,and I do like the idea of TFT ,especially with Bluetooth so you can run google maps through it,save having a gps unit mounted separately

SUGS 27th September 2019 11:39 AM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=Admin;3580440]

I heard Bosch are testing a new massage-seat integrated ECU with mid-corner sac adjustment to stop the testies squeezing up against the petrol tank, which studies have shown can lead to slower speeds on the road along with erectile dysfunction, and the early onset of baldness and dementia, evidence of which is extremely prevalent at every bike rally up and down the country.[/QUOTE]

...AI taking over from the job of the pillion..!!

...I'm liking the blue/white/red Africa Twin ... hmmmm .. :thumbsup2:

Duke RR 27th September 2019 01:15 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
i didnt read the link above, i dont need to , this new africa twin should be bike of the year for 2020 imo based on credible detail ive read elsewhere and released from Honda themselves.

the second ( current ) gen Africa Twin is different to the first, and for the better.

this newer model will only affirm ( or should ) and leap this bike forward in the market.

ive been in the UK twice this year proper off roading on the current model, gravel, over the knee muck, hills / valleys , heavy green laning etc and they are a superb bike. Ive dopped them a couple of of bikes on rocks and down a hill, they are unbreakable pretty ,much.. Ttry that with any big ktm or bmw see how you go.

the likes of the "G" button / torque control are not gimmicks , you need to knw what you are doing on different terrain , like the other aids the bike comes with. Use it for what it is, cracking bike, and dont let the figures fool you, these bikes can hustle, v v quickly when needed.

:talktohand:

[IMG]https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/PageFiles/675486/Honda-Africa-Twin-03.jpg[/IMG]

batman_oh 27th September 2019 03:25 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=Duke RR;3580484]i didnt read the link above, i dont need to , this new africa twin should be bike of the year for 2020 imo based on credible detail ive read elsewhere and released from Honda themselves.

the second ( current ) gen Africa Twin is different to the first, and for the better.

this newer model will only affirm ( or should ) and leap this bike forward in the market.

ive been in the UK twice this year proper off roading on the current model, gravel, over the knee muck, hills / valleys , heavy green laning etc and they are a superb bike. Ive dopped them a couple of of bikes on rocks and down a hill, they are unbreakable pretty ,much.. Ttry that with any big ktm or bmw see how you go.

the likes of the "G" button / torque control are not gimmicks , you need to knw what you are doing on different terrain , like the other aids the bike comes with. Use it for what it is, cracking bike, and dont let the figures fool you, these bikes can hustle, v v quickly when needed.

:talktohand:

[IMG]https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/PageFiles/675486/Honda-Africa-Twin-03.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Bike of the year? Sounds like the kind of shite they use to peddle Renaults and Fiat Pandas to people! :bag:

That offroad stuff is lovely and all, but 99% of owners won't go near that and will use it to go for a large breakfast every Sunday and compare notes. We get that you like it but less of the hyperbole please :lbhbh:

The Apple Car play is useful - saves GPS.

vifferman 27th September 2019 08:35 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=Admin;3580440]Said the fooker posting this from his iphone,. .[/QUOTE]

Actually I'm posting from my 2003 Thinkpad T42, so I'm consistent with my Luddite tendencies.:tongue_old:

Technician 29th September 2019 12:43 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=vifferman;3580506]Actually I'm posting from my 2003 Thinkpad T42, so I'm consistent with my Luddite tendencies.:tongue_old:[/QUOTE]

They were a great machine to be fair :thumbsup2:

Technician 29th September 2019 12:45 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
[QUOTE=vifferman;3580506]Actually I'm posting from my 2003 Thinkpad T42, so I'm consistent with my Luddite tendencies.:tongue_old:[/QUOTE]

They were a great machine to be fair :thumbsup2:

Caffeine 29th September 2019 02:12 PM

Re: 2020 Honda Africa Twin 1100, and the Scorpion
 
210 kilos dry. Still too fat.


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