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Old 20th March 2012, 12:56 AM
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hi all was driven down the motorway crusin along then the bike just died
felt like running out of petrol(only filled this eve)
so coasted in to hard shoulder droppin gears an lettin clutch out nothin happenin
finally stopped i checked the tank lots there mad sure tap was on
tried to start nothing
it was turning over but not firing
put it to reseve gave it a min still nothin
turning over but not firing
tried a bump nothin
gave it a min an tried button again nothin
with all the tryin to start think i drained the battery
ended up pushin it for a while off a slip road an to a pub few km down the road?
any ideas?
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:00 AM
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May sound silly but well known accident you may have flicked kill switch,
happened alot of people on here typing stuff like this.
Have a look!
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by vroom
May sound silly but well known accident you may have flicked kill switch,
happened alot of people on here typing stuff like this.
Have a look!
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tried it? as i say it was firing but not startin.
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by johnf
as i say it was firing but not startin.
That happens with kill switch off to, just thought you may have knocked it
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by johnf
hi all was driven down the motorway crusin along then the bike just died
felt like running out of petrol(only filled this eve)
so coasted in to hard shoulder droppin gears an lettin clutch out nothin happenin
finally stopped i checked the tank lots there mad sure tap was on
tried to start nothing
it was turning over but not firing
put it to reseve gave it a min still nothin
turning over but not firing
tried a bump nothin
gave it a min an tried button again nothin
with all the tryin to start think i drained the battery
ended up pushin it for a while off a slip road an to a pub few km down the road?
any ideas?
try prime instead of reserve
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:16 AM
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Open one of the drain screws on one of your carbs.see is there juice comming out.take off the juice hose turn it to pri see does any juice come out.or u cld leave on main and turn it over and see does any juice come out if theres enough in there.check the plugs for spark also.

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Old 20th March 2012, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vroom
That happens with kill switch off to, just thought you may have knocked it
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if the kill switch was off it wouldnt turn over! dont mean to sound smart btw cheers for suggestions keepin comin
thought maybe i put diesel in it but it went up the motor way ok an was near home before it died? 60 odd km from petrol station.
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chopper
try prime instead of reserve
tried that aswell chopper. thanks bye the way its a 250 bandit prob should have said!
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Old 20th March 2012, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by johnf
if the kill switch was off it wouldnt turn over!.
Yes ! Yes it would!
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Old 20th March 2012, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by vroom
Yes ! Yes it would!
kill switch is designed to kill the engine if it was in off position the engine wouldnt turn over?
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Old 20th March 2012, 02:55 AM
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Fuel pump? Are your plugs sparking?
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Old 20th March 2012, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by johnf
kill switch is designed to kill the engine if it was in off position the engine wouldnt turn over?
I know what its designed for you asked for tips i gave you one, happens people regularly. And the engine will turn but it won't start with kill switch off!
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Old 20th March 2012, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vroom
I know what its designed for you asked for tips i gave you one, happens people regularly. And the engine will turn but it won't start with kill switch off!

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I've never owned a bike that would turn over with the kill switch in the off position
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Old 20th March 2012, 04:46 AM
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see some bikes have a very special starter motor that powers themselves from kinetic energy picked up from moon rays even when the whole electric circuit is cut off ie the kill switch
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:30 AM
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change a plugs, check for spark. same happened to me was looking for problem a days. i could see spark, but bike wouldnt fire up. changed spark plugs, (can try clean them first) fired straight away.
i have similar bike .
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:49 AM
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my old fazer died at high revs, so on motorway - turned out the carbs were FULL of rusted away petrol tank. was around 4mm of compacted rust in the bowls. cleaned em out and put a new fuel filter in and was grand after.
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Old 20th March 2012, 08:05 AM
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If its a 250 bandit its more then likely carbs, had exactly the same problem when I had mine,
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and when the kill switch was off on mine it killed it
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Old 20th March 2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by vroom
Yes ! Yes it would!
No! No it wouldn't, Bandit won't turn over if the kill is off
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:10 AM
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If your still stuck an near Drogheda give me a bell an i'll come with the work cage an give ya a lift to rpm or somewhere close! oh 8 seven 133 oh3 4 three
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by johnf
if the kill switch was off it wouldnt turn over! dont mean to sound smart btw cheers for suggestions keepin comin
thought maybe i put diesel in it but it went up the motor way ok an was near home before it died? 60 odd km from petrol station.
stranger things have happened , check the tank , then drain a float bowl to check the carbs are getting juice (petrol loike lol) then check for spark . no point reading any more crap on here till ya do that
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