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Old 19th March 2012, 09:39 PM
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No bother lad
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..Oh and you'll be needin paint for that too
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hahahha and u no i wont be passing u on it either ya fecker ,
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,i like the look of that trike but i want mine more naked and with just one seat like an exile trike or sumtin along that line,and only 2 colours by the way black n white
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Old 19th March 2012, 10:27 PM
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Yeah, a limited slip diff would be fun
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A 12V starter motor connected to the prop shaft or the diff via a sprag clutch would do for reversing.
could you expand on this with more info and pictures etc have you done this ?
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Old 19th March 2012, 11:08 PM
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i did it on a mates z trike, bolted a gear onto the diff drive flange and used a cage starter motor to spin it
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Old 19th March 2012, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by debreeze
could you expand on this with more info and pictures etc have you done this ?
I haven't done it on a trike, but I've done similar with other jobs.

Something like this coupled to the prop shaft and driven from a starter motor.


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Obviously not that one, but you get the idea?
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Old 21st March 2012, 04:03 PM
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wel folks ,got the design done and working on the parts,

i have few more questions for ye again,

i want to put a 240 frontend but the price of the wheel is alot ,so prob go for a 200 harley wheel or as some of u kind fellas say a tractor wheel, whats the pros and cons of a wider front end for handling and a tyre suiting it ?

i will fit 300mm rubber to the back i hear that any wider and its dangerous in the wet ?

was goin to use 2 r1 monos for comfort and handling ?

and i was going to rake the front end a little more than standard again pros and cons if u can.

as towards the drive of the bike it will be 1.6 mtrs wide at the back and hopefully on 19" rims which is better for reliability chain or shaft and can the shaft be offset with a knuckle joint,

thats it so far lads the frame frontend all sheetmetal all no probs so far
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Old 21st March 2012, 04:16 PM
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Any pics
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I know the brother had to take in the rake on his because the headstock started to crack. Just a thought.
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Old 21st March 2012, 04:26 PM
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I know the brother had to take in the rake on his because the headstock started to crack. Just a thought.
yes bro i was thinking bout the pressure on the headstock if i raked it out,as for pics i have to delete some first here b4 im allowed to put them on ,and me and computers are not best matched,might just email them to u instead haha,im goin to make the tank and mudguards myself Sean so shud be fun,trying to keep chrome to a minimum, blasack n white the whole way thru and plenty of powder coating to keep ur price down lol
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Old 21st March 2012, 04:27 PM
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A wider front wheel won't make much, if any difference. It's the tyre that's gonna be carrying the weight. You'll probably want a tyre for a tourer or sports tourer to carry the extra weight.

You don't need 300mm on the rear... it's not an F1 cage, and it'll look like one of those German air cooled excuses for a trike if you do fit 300mm tyres.

2 X R1 monos... I don't know what weight the springs are on them, but you'll need to know this to work out where the mounting points need to be in relation to the pivot points, and calculate if you have enough travel.

If you rake the front end more, you're gonna need longer stanchions.

Are you going to be using a solid axle or an independent double wishbone setup? (the diff is already offset a little in a solid axle) Either way... draw a scale sketch of the trike with the engine in place and measure the angle from the output shaft to your diff. The degree of angle will dictate whether you can use a universal joint or if it will have to be a constant velocity joint.
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Old 21st March 2012, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
A wider front wheel won't make much, if any difference. It's the tyre that's gonna be carrying the weight. You'll probably want a tyre for a tourer or sports tourer to carry the extra weight.

You don't need 300mm on the rear... it's not an F1 cage, and it'll look like one of those German air cooled excuses for a trike if you do fit 300mm tyres.

2 X R1 monos... I don't know what weight the springs are on them, but you'll need to know this to work out where the mounting points need to be in relation to the pivot points, and calculate if you have enough travel.

If you rake the front end more, you're gonna need longer stanchions.

Are you going to be using a solid axle or an independent double wishbone setup? (the diff is already offset a little in a solid axle) Either way... draw a scale sketch of the trike with the engine in place and measure the angle from the output shaft to your diff. The degree of angle will dictate whether you can use a universal joint or if it will have to be a constant velocity joint.
thanks Gixxer for the help here,so im sorted with the front end i go with a 200 section and not rake it too much,

i was using the 2 r1 shocks as a guide imy mate has a vmax trike that ger conlon built and was goin to use a similar backend ,his is a great handling trike sitting 64" wide at the back,
the reason i was using 300 section wheels at the back was purly for looks,i dont like the thin wheels that lads usually use on them,

as towards the rear end i use a double wishbone setup,as regards thedriveshaft setup it will depend on the motor i use,i have 2 at home at the moment i have an xs 650 chain drive and i have a seca 750 shaft,but i was looking for bit more power i think maybe a vmax or a intruder i prefer a v twin or v 4 thanks again
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Old 21st March 2012, 06:00 PM
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Check the rotation of the propshaft matches the diff, i know of a lad who spent ages welding up a hardtail xs1100 trike,
looked the job alright but he had 5 reverse gears,
had to take off the axle and flip it over
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Old 21st March 2012, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jim'll break it
Check the rotation of the propshaft matches the diff, i know of a lad who spent ages welding up a hardtail xs1100 trike,
looked the job alright but he had 5 reverse gears,
had to take off the axle and flip it over
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One question-did he ever manage to get it into reverse 5th!

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Old 21st March 2012, 06:10 PM
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yes, with the wheels smokin like fuck
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, pity id no camera but it was back when a phone had the same size battery as a goldwing
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Old 21st March 2012, 06:16 PM
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Great thread..
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Would love a crack at a build someday..


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Old 21st March 2012, 06:29 PM
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Heres a right yoke to run one with


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Its a little over the learner power limit (30MW) but im sure it could be restricted
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:21 PM
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Great thread..
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Would love a crack at a build someday..


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well bro, thats sweet out id love to see the back of it tho it looks great
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:34 PM
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Something you should take into account... The wider your rear tyres are, the more scrub you're going to have and the worse your turning circle and track will be.

I wouldn't use anything more than a 205 on the rear, and even that would be the maximum I'd consider.
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gixxer
Something you should take into account... The wider your rear tyres are, the more scrub you're going to have and the worse your turning circle and track will be.

I wouldn't use anything more than a 205 on the rear, and even that would be the maximum I'd consider.
i agree with u 100% mate,but i have 2 friends in our club with trikes ,one has a ger conlon built vmax with 285 on back and 180 on front its 64" wide with near standard rake and he rides it hard and handles fantastic,the other is a 2002 zx12 with a bolt on kit and 350 tyres on the back she goes great in the dry but very bad in wet she wont cut the water just aquaplanes thru it,i have rode both and the vmax is better set up and on the back roads will eat a bike up,its a tuff one to call maybe i stick to 255 or 275 try have the best of both worlds ?
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:49 PM
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gixxer wat size and width u think this pic highcider has up ?,it looks great
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:52 PM
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Old 21st March 2012, 09:52 PM
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