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Old 12th July 2018, 09:36 PM
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Anyone got one hanging up in the shed around Cork.
I'd fire it in the bin, no parts, skinny wheels... No Engine !!
but young lad looking for one - I could go bike to work, but want old style racer with the bent bars.(the ones that come bent from the factory )
Few on dung deal ... with 'extras' but I'm not enthused with €200+

this too will pass.
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Old 12th July 2018, 09:38 PM
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I've an old BSA 5sp with a fanny dip.
Tis yours if ya want it.
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Old 12th July 2018, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork View Post
I've an old BSA 5sp with a fanny dip.
Tis yours if ya want it.
dats a gurls bike.. the shame..

Can't even remember the names Viking, Peugeot,
All I know is mine was orange .. briefly,
sprayed it black, wide bars, chrome crash bars, robbed,
half my friends would appear with my bars, someone else's wheels, and vica versa and we'd start all over again.

No big deal. It might even pass before we find one PG
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Airman View Post
Anyone got one hanging up in the shed around Cork.
I'd fire it in the bin, no parts, skinny wheels... No Engine !!
but young lad looking for one - I could go bike to work, but want old style racer with the bent bars.(the ones that come bent from the factory )
Few on dung deal ... with 'extras' but I'm not enthused with €200+

this too will pass.
Good luck. Any rusty old heap pulled out of the river is classed as "vintage" and a ridiculous price slapped on it.

Powers Garage in Dungarvan might be worth a call. They had a pile of old Italian bikes from the 70s & 80s - really nice steel frames - which were ripe for restoration, and they sold them all (as far as I can tell). If they had more, and anything in 57-59cm, I'd happily buy one.

What size is he looking for, and what is he looking to do with it?
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Old 12th July 2018, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle View Post

What size is he looking for, and what is he looking to do with it?
No idea of bike sizes and he's looking to cycle 'places' and keep a bit fit.
really wants the 'vintage. Being pessimistic, he'll be fit pushing it up hills, and potentially not be able to get parts.
We're 14K away from reality, so he'd be better off getting lightweight, new, bike to work (even 2nd hand) and join a club which I'd gladly support.
Hate to say it, but would be parked up after a week, hence the chance of getting something cheap. with drop bar racer skinny frame & wheel style.
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Old 13th July 2018, 09:21 AM
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Overall height and inseam can give a rough idea of what size will fit - loads of "bike fit calculator" web sites out there.

If he just wants something to get a bit fitter, there's not much better than a decent secondhand mountain bike. They're inexpensive and robust, easy to fix and maintain. Just pop in to any local shop. Just stay away from dual-suspension, because unless you're spending big money, it's just a heavy nonsense. Aluminium hardtail frame, 7-speed (or more) Shimano or SRAM (any flavor), just clean & oil it, learn to adjust brakes and cables yourself, keep the wheels/tyres/tubes in good shape, and it'll go forever.

A vintage bike can break your heart. You really gotta love bikes to appreciate one, so it's not the best first race bike. Often they've got bent wheels, perished tyres, loose spokes, cracked nipples, needs a new bottom bracket (the bearing at the crank, many cyclists don't see this as a "consumable", but it really is), brakes are weak, any usually the drivetrains are ancient 5 or 6 speed junk that don't give much range and you can't find parts...

I really like cycling, and I'd much rather ditch all the old gear and put newer stuff on an older frame - with the old steel frames, it's not like technology changed much in the last 50 years, and the old frames are lovely. Unless you want fancy bling-bling carbon-fibre (which has it's own perils!) and plan to do serious competitive racing with a club, there's nothing wrong with an old bicycle frame. Even the less-old (late 90s-to-current) aluminium ones are really good, light and lively, just make sure there are no dings or cracks.

But it's a small money-pit, you do all the work yourself because that's how you want your bike, not because you expect to sell it on for a profit.

If he's still hell-bent on a vintage bike, do a little research on whatever you find, and go for something Italian if he wants to up the "cool factor". I'm not familiar with Peugeots, but I do know they use a lot of weird (to me) Swiss and French parts, which are different (apparently) in thread pitch to the much more common British standard and Italian threaded stuff, which can make them harder to work on and find parts for.

Summary: find a secondhand hardtail mountain bike; destroy that first, then go consider getting an old Colnago, Bianchi, De Rosa, Pinarello, etc. and put new running gear on it.
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Old 13th July 2018, 04:50 PM
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This one for 100 quid or less. Looks good to go though

https://www.donedeal.ie/bicycles-for...acer-/18485166
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Old 13th July 2018, 06:45 PM
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That old Raleigh is low-end basic steel, nothing special and it'll weigh a ton. Visually, not a bad-looking bike, but to me that's where the nice bit ends. I'll admit I'm finicky when it comes to cycling - there's nothing I dislike more than something that makes a noise when it shouldn't, or something not doing what it is designed to do - and there's a laundry list of things that would just not be good enough.

But based on the original requirements, that could definitely do the job!
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Old 13th July 2018, 06:50 PM
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BTW, just looking at the photo of the Raleigh in the DD ad, I'd guess it's 58cm. Measure the center of the bottom bracket to the center of the intersection of the top tube and seat post. That'd make it sized for someone just over 6'. Whomever had it before probably wasn't so tall, which is why the seat is too low. If you have a look at it, make sure the seat tube isn't stuck.

"seat tube center-to-center", shown here: Click the image to open in full size.
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Old 13th July 2018, 06:54 PM
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A general rule of thumb that I was taught (which doesn't make it right, but it "looks right" to me) is for the size to be right for you, the amount of seat post showing should be fairly close to the length of the head tube.

Here is my 59cm Bianchi Ti Megatube. I suppose it's "vintage" now, being from 1996!

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Old 13th July 2018, 07:08 PM
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You can see here the difference in exposed seat tube with my 57cm Bianchi M Alloy Pro.

Click the image to open in full size.

Just like differences in motorcycle geometry, it makes a massive difference to the ride experience. The smaller frame is more twitchy, I'm just a little more on the handlebars, it feels "racier". What is interesting to me is that the titanium Bianchi was the top of the range in 1996, and this aluminium Bianchi was just one or two steps from the bottom in 2000, and I still really enjoy riding them both.

The titanium is noticeably nicer, though.
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Old 13th July 2018, 07:17 PM
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A final "food for thought", here's a bike I bought from Powers Garage a few years ago, a low-end steel 70s Bianchi:

Before:
Click the image to open in full size.

After replacing just about everything with modern stuff:
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As I said before, it can be a small money pit. But this bike still makes me smile when I ride it.
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Old 13th July 2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle View Post
A final "food for thought", here's a bike I bought from Powers Garage a few years ago, a low-end steel 70s Bianchi:

Before:
Link to Photo (1046 kB)

After replacing just about everything with modern stuff:
Click the image to open in full size.

As I said before, it can be a small money pit. But this bike still makes me smile when I ride it.
Nice collection of old bikes
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Old 13th July 2018, 08:22 PM
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Get a Raleigh Chopper
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Old 13th July 2018, 09:13 PM
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Get a Raleigh Vectra
There ya go , that’s better
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Old 13th July 2018, 09:54 PM
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Here's a good thread on the Raleigh Routier:

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/vie...?f=12&t=199366

Could be a really nice bike. Clean & lube everything and think about a wheel upgrade (the DT shifters, if they're friction, should be able to handle an 8-9-10 speed cassette).
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Old 14th July 2018, 11:08 PM
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https://touch.adverts.ie/road-bikes/...e-ono/15721391
In Dubland & there's another 1 in black & red, not listed, but it's double the price, because it's brand new. If your ever up this way, I'll make it worth your while, if you were to purchase either. OR EITHER. :-)
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