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Old 5th December 2018, 06:20 PM
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Question Most fun on the best roads?

I知 moving to France next year, down by the alps... I知 trying to suss out what I知 going to get for thrashing around the mountain passes down there...

I知 caught in two minds... big belter or light weight sorta supertwin

The first thing that comes to mind is a supernaked, like a superduke or an MT10, both of which I test rode before and were savagely quick and fun but before you even know it... you池e out of 3rd gear your way over any speed limit.

Then I was thinking maybe the whole riding 全low bike fast approach, getting something like an MT07, remap, suspension upgrade and full system and you could end up having more fun and keep your license a whole lot longer.

Or would a mid size, 765/750 be the best of all worlds...

I値l be taking my GS down for touring, commuting and a bit of off road to tick all the other boxes.

Decisions decisions
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:24 PM
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Buy a few..

There's no road-tax or NCT to worry about down there, so source a decent multi-bike insurance policy (and a few trickle chargers) and you'll be able to run a small fleet of bikes handy enough.

Lucky bar-steward btw :)
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:27 PM
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250 2 stroke.
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:28 PM
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Congratulations on the move!

The Kawasaki Z1000SX is very popular over there. That'd be the bike I'd go for, if I were upgrading the ZRX.
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by -alan-
Buy a few..

There's no road-tax or NCT to worry about down there, so source a decent multi-bike insurance policy (and a few trickle chargers) and you'll be able to run a small fleet of bikes handy enough.

Lucky bar-steward btw :)
Cheers! I like the sound of this option... start with a little ripper and then get a big brute, then fill the gaps

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250 2 stroke.
Never tried one! Will have to give one a go... if the noise and smell is anything to go by... we値l get on just fine

Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle
Congratulations on the move!

The Kawasaki Z1000SX is very popular over there. That'd be the bike I'd go for, if I were upgrading the ZRX.
Cheers, I致e a friend in work with one of them, been meaning to arrange a swap for a spin. Won稚 knock it till I try it but was thinking something more agile as I already have the touring/sports touring box ticked.
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Old 5th December 2018, 07:38 PM
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That new weird looking Honda CB1000R looks like it could be a bit of craic
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Old 5th December 2018, 08:23 PM
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Ktm 990 sm
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Old 5th December 2018, 08:32 PM
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Ktm 990 sm
Agreed or a street triple.
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Old 5th December 2018, 08:41 PM
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Alpine passes without big speed it would without doubt be a KTM 990SMR (original version for niceness) or the later one/990sm. Instant punch and easy to throw about. The Ducati hypermotard 939sp would appeal also.
Mt10 is quite large and not exactly nimble. The 1290 superduke would work well but it痴 overkill on slower stuff. More a yoke for going too fast everywhere but comfortably
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Old 5th December 2018, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gsxr100k7
Ktm 990 sm
Originally Posted by bandit0
Agreed or a street triple.
I had a go on a 990 duke, was good but felt a bit unrefined. Is the 990SM much different?

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Alpine passes without big speed it would without doubt be a KTM 990SMR (original version for niceness) or the later one/990sm. Instant punch and easy to throw about. The Ducati hypermotard 939sp would appeal also.
Mt10 is quite large and not exactly nimble. The 1290 superduke would work well but it痴 overkill on slower stuff. More a yoke for going too fast everywhere but comfortably
Fair point about the MT10, The only way it didn稚 feel blisteringly fast was going from one side to the other...

I致e always been a fan of the hypermotards but heard some horror stories about reliability? Ever had one?
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Old 5th December 2018, 09:26 PM
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950 sm or the 660 sm.
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Old 5th December 2018, 09:29 PM
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92 -98 fireblade is good fun a "slow" bike but if you get a well sorted one and correct one you will have fun and no depreciation, but up to you, otherwise buy a newer bike which wont be as much fun and have loads of depreciation, great decision to be making have fun, I believe things in France are tough for bikers now???? make sure you have the yellow vest so as you can partake in the riots
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Old 5th December 2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDiggity View Post
I’m moving to France next year, down by the alps... I’m trying to suss out what I’m going to get for thrashing around the mountain passes down there...

I’m caught in two minds... big belter or light weight sorta supertwin

The first thing that comes to mind is a supernaked, like a superduke or an MT10, both of which I test rode before and were savagely quick and fun but before you even know it... you’re out of 3rd gear your way over any speed limit.

Then I was thinking maybe the whole riding ‘Slow bike fast’ approach, getting something like an MT07, remap, suspension upgrade and full system and you could end up having more fun and keep your license a whole lot longer.

Or would a mid size, 765/750 be the best of all worlds...

I’ll be taking my GS down for touring, commuting and a bit of off road to tick all the other boxes.

Decisions decisions
Trade the BMW and get a new KTM 1090 to do everything, it's quicker, lighter and more agile than the GS yet does everything it does incl. touring 2-up, 125bhp doesn't sound like much but they're a lot of fun (like a fast sv650 on backroads) and probably better off-road too.

No point in having too many bikes, double the expense with tyres, servicing, running costs etc. and only one of them gets used.
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Old 5th December 2018, 09:59 PM
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No point in having too many bikes, double the expense with tyres, servicing, running costs etc. and only one of them gets used.
Yer wrong there boss,the number of bikes you need is the number you have plus one.
Scientifically proven doncha know
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Old 5th December 2018, 10:01 PM
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Yer wrong there boss,the number of bikes you need is the number you have plus one.
Scientifically proven doncha know
yeah but harleys and bmw gs1200's don't really count in those equations
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Old 5th December 2018, 10:06 PM
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yeah but harleys and bmw gs1200's don't really count in those equations
They are the exception that prove the adage "Less is more"
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Old 5th December 2018, 10:24 PM
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No point in having too many bikes, double the expense with tyres, servicing, running costs etc. and only one of them gets used.
Yebbut..take the fixed costs annual and hassle out of tax, and set up a multi-bike insurance policy (under French rates) and it gets a lot easier. Especially when the decent weather riding season is closer to 8 good months instead of our poxy 1 1/2 (if we're lucky..)
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Old 5th December 2018, 10:43 PM
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If you needed to have one bike in each country, or were constantly getting chases and wanted to throw the gendarmerie's off the scent, - fair enough, but on a tight and twisty back-road there would be few bikes that'd leave you sitting on the 1090, basic clocks, basic suspension, basic electronics but it all works as a package and definitely worthy of a test spin.
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Old 5th December 2018, 11:25 PM
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If you needed to have one bike in each country, or were constantly getting chases and wanted to throw the gendarmerie's off the scent, - fair enough, but on a tight and twisty back-road there would be few bikes that'd leave you sitting on the 1090, basic clocks, basic suspension, basic electronics but it all works as a package and definitely worthy of a test spin.
Agree, they're a little complicated.... But not overly,so no scary desmo style servicing, which could cost quite a few frogs legs and snails in wee wee land. Simple enough to be fun, and modern enough to be quick
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Old 5th December 2018, 11:50 PM
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No point in going overboard, there are lads riding around on sportsbikes who can't even get to within 60% of their performance capability on the roads and would be much more comfortable and relaxed on something with less power that was softer for bumps and could be driven to within say, 90% of it's overall capacity quite easily, and thus be ultimately quicker and safer while having way more criac bouncing off the limiter and tearin' around on a spin - but,..

Unfortunately, for some it's more a consideration of static/coffee shop/look at me strutting around like a rooster who's guilty by association with having the same 200mph motogp logos & other visually arresting connotations, where the 'ego' takes over and ultimately makes up their mind for them, as they try to matthew l饕lanc out some geriatric (who 'gets' it) that just left them sitting on the col d montagne
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