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Old 2nd August 2017, 08:45 PM
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with the UK planning to ban all petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2040. What those that mean for the future of motorcycles?

I could of sworn I read an article that said honda would cease all motorbike sales in UK by 2030 as they didn't see a future in electric bikes???? I can't find the article anywhere now dud anyone else see that?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatlus the Pterodactyloid Pterosaur
with the UK planning to ban all petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2040. What those that mean for the future of motorcycles?

I could of sworn I read an article that said honda would cease all motorbike sales in UK by 2030 as they didn't see a future in electric bikes???? I can't find the article anywhere now dud anyone else see that?
That thing about honda is fake news.2040 is 23 years away,we'll all be dead by then.
anyway,the way things are going with euro blah blah blah emissions bollox,by then bikes wont have the power to pull themselves out of the way.
Also they're planning to ban the sale of i/c engines not their use so stock up now
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:02 PM
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Best of luck with the electric idea in ireland, our grid will shit itself if every vehicle plugs in at night to charge, look at our victorian water mains bursting like balloons and they want our electricity supply to be able to deal with all this!
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:02 PM
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It's designed as a foot in the arse to the motor industry to accelerate the development of oil alternatives. I reckon where there's a real will there's a way and the technology will develop to meet the demand over the next few years. There will be bikes in the future just no glorious exhaust note as ya whip through the countryside.
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:05 PM
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Didn't steam engine users say the same thing about ICE?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:32 PM
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Couldent give a shite My biking days will be well over by the time that happens.
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flinstone
Didn't steam engine users say the same thing about ICE?
Weren't they right..?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flinstone
Didn't steam engine users say the same thing about ICE?
Probably did but I/C was a huge leap forward over steam power.
Elec power is at best a step sideways.
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Old 2nd August 2017, 09:50 PM
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I'm no fan of electric bikes, mainly due to the lack of noise, but that is just what we are used to. Already electric bikes have great performance, just look at the lap times of the TT zero machines, by 2040 they should have figured out how to make lighter batteries and faster charging options. A teenager growing up in 2040 will look back at the ICE like we look back on steam engines - old, inefficient technology
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork
Probably did but I/C was a huge leap forward over steam power.
Elec power is at best a step sideways.
Instant torque, almost no maintenance required.
How are those disadvantages?

I'll admit, I've never been on an electric bike.

Main problems at the moment are batteries and charging times. Those technologies will have drastically improved in 20 years time.

Any advance in technology is met with resistance.
People don't like change.
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flinstone
Instant torque, almost no maintenance required.
How are those disadvantages?

I'll admit, I've never been on an electric bike.

Main problems at the moment are batteries and charging times. Those technologies will have drastically improved in 20 years time.

Any advance in technology is met with resistance.
People don't like change.
No maintenance?So computers never break down?Batteries never crap out?
I've been hearing all this bollox about technology improving for 20+ years.
Still waiting.
The problem with E/Vs is the engineers developing it are computer geeks and they're more interested in fitting bullshit gimmicks like ipod connectivity than addressing the real issues.
If everyone moves to electric vehicles energy costs will skyrocket and you wont be able to afford to turn on the lights in your house,how will you feel then?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hornethead
Best of luck with the electric idea in ireland, our grid will shit itself if every vehicle plugs in at night to charge, look at our victorian water mains bursting like balloons and they want our electricity supply to be able to deal with all this!
Brilliant post, so true
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:57 PM
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Fossil fuels will be gone before this century is over.

What's the alternative?

Hydrogen?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:58 PM
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Thorium motorcycles?
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Old 2nd August 2017, 11:03 PM
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Perpetual motion.... did I even spell that right?

Anyway by the time the Usa have sorted out north korea all of us with bikes will be like goons from mad max with the women of Ireland foaming at the gash for a ride on thw back....
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Old 2nd August 2017, 11:43 PM
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we will adapt, even if it means taking the engine out of and old GSXR and replacing it with whatever type of power ........??? Lecky motor etc.. just a different kind of restoration
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Old 2nd August 2017, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: The future of motorcycles?

Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork
No maintenance?So computers never break down?Batteries never crap out?
I've been hearing all this bollox about technology improving for 20+ years.
Still waiting.

The problem with E/Vs is the engineers developing it are computer geeks and they're more interested in fitting bullshit gimmicks like ipod connectivity than addressing the real issues.
If everyone moves to electric vehicles energy costs will skyrocket and you wont be able to afford to turn on the lights in your house,how will you feel then?
So you could walk around with a computer with 8 cores and Gigabytes of RAM in your back pocket 20+ years ago

You have a point about electrical components shitting themselves and batteries having a finite lifespan. But hey, I've had petrol engines with valves smashed through pistons, broken piston rings, dodgey regulator/rectifiers, rotten exhausts and all sorts. All these things could be eliminated on an electric bike. Inevitably components will break down and fail whatever the type of motor. But less moving parts should definitely reduce the number of failures due to wear and tear.

I think the internal combustion engine will be around for another while yet. I like the idea of hybrid vehicles. You get a bit more flexibility if you have to do a few long journeys without worrying about having to charge. I wonder if similar technology could be used on a bike without making it an overweight pig.

The article about honda ceasing motorcycle sales is definitely bullshit. They have an electric scooter in the pipeline. Planned release date is next year:
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...-cub-next-year
I guess larger higher performance motorcycles will follow. According to the article linked above there are rumors that the next Goldwing will be a petrol/electric hybrid. Sounds like a good candidate since its already a bit of a porker!
Companies like Honda will evolve and do whatever makes the organisation money.
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Old 3rd August 2017, 12:01 AM
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To heavy too slow and the advances are slower than paint drying. Iv never head so much around the corner crap
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Old 3rd August 2017, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: The future of motorcycles?

Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork
No maintenance?So computers never break down?Batteries never crap out?
I've been hearing all this bollox about technology improving for 20+ years.
Still waiting.
The problem with E/Vs is the engineers developing it are computer geeks and they're more interested in fitting bullshit gimmicks like ipod connectivity than addressing the real issues.

If everyone moves to electric vehicles energy costs will skyrocket and you wont be able to afford to turn on the lights in your house,how will you feel then?
agree with you on that. battery technology improvements is slow at best. look at all the smartphones or wearable devices whose batteries after a few months die off quicker and require more charging the longer you have them.

not to mention what happened when Samsung upgraded the battery in the new note
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Old 3rd August 2017, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Vjmc.Cork
No maintenance?So computers never break down?Batteries never crap out?
Still better than servicing type writers and changing ink ribbons and all that.
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