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Old 31st July 2018, 11:51 AM
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Old 31st July 2018, 11:55 AM
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Old 31st July 2018, 11:58 AM
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Old 31st July 2018, 12:07 PM
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what was it ? More RSA anti motorcycle bullshit ?
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what was it ? More RSA anti motorcycle bullshit ?
Yes usual shite talk like a third of all bikers are drunk
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Old 31st July 2018, 01:05 PM
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Old 31st July 2018, 03:16 PM
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Are the cops doing a motorbike blitz this weekend
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Old 31st July 2018, 03:47 PM
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http://www.thejournal.ie/motorcyclis...56912-Jul2018/
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Old 31st July 2018, 03:51 PM
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the usual shite in the Independent as well from the RSA---a third of fatal accidents involving bikers between 2008 and 2012 had consumed alcohol-----but doesn't state they were over limit.Also doesn't mention stats for Cars at same time and what percentage of these had alcohol consumed. RSA is just doing promo before a bank Hol to justify their existence.
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:10 PM
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https://cdn.rasset.ie/manifest/audio.../manifest.m3u8

Podcast here.

In fairness the lad on after about cyclists spotted that the blame was being laid on the shoulders of the bikers and cyclists.
He pointed out cages etc need to have raised awareness of cyclist and bikers.

But it was mostly that Moya Murdoch one talking unproffesionaly about bikers, using terms like "weekend warriors" which is not a proffesional term.

Its laying the blame at bikers for their own demise, they all drink, they all speed, cant handle powerful machines, speed kills when in fact its the sudden stop that does the damage and is gennerally caused by cages pulling out or bikers making evasive manouvers due to other road users.

I suppose we dont help ourselves when Eubank is posting vids of clipping apexes showing no road craft.

When lads in cages and bikes stop thinking its a video game things may improve. This negative press dressed up as awareness just reinforces a cagers right to pull out in front of a bike to slow him down or put manors on him.
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aido43
a third of fatal accidents involving bikers between 2008 and 2012 had consumed alcohol
Would like to see the detail behind that...

Maybe I'm naive but I don't know anyone who would drink and drive and can't imagine that there are many who do...

Could it be knackers on stolen bikes skewing the stats?
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:46 PM
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exactly--it wasn't against law between 2008 and 2012 to consume alcohol up to whatever limit was in place and itd be interesting to see who was to blame in the accidents quoted.
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
Maybe I'm naive but I don't know anyone who would drink and drive and can't imagine that there are many who do...
Local bike "club/enthusiasts" idea of a Sunday spin is a pub crawl.
Not a bunch of young lads either. They are not a minority either. I know
plenty at it.
I could never have a pint when I had a road
bike, eyes used to go as soon as I put my helmet on, just couldn't focus.
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
Would like to see the detail behind that...

Maybe I'm naive but I don't know anyone who would drink and drive and can't imagine that there are many who do...

Could it be knackers on stolen bikes skewing the stats?
ALL incidents involving a motorcycle go into those stats. that include bike thieves and riders on the road without a license. Having said that these make up a small proportion of these stats. so are the stats skewed by what we would not consider everyday bikers? YES. But not enough so that these stats are still no relevant to bikers in general.

Unfortunately the story the RSA are telling is true. Some of you might not like that but I cant stop you burying your head in the sand. In recent weeks we have had two threads related to this, the current one with Eubank acting the bollocks on a public road in full public view and the one a few weeks ago about keeping the speed down and the garda checks in Kildare and Wicklow.

With about 50 really active member of this forum, its not hard to see how these stats could be a true reflection of whats going on. We have Eubank, a fatality just waiting to happen, but while no one has flat out condoned what he was doing, there were a good few that seemed to think what he was doing would be acceptable if they were more careful or more skillful about it.

How many bikers on the road in Ireland, Im not sure. I would imagine its less than 5000 that are regular bikers (ride a bike at least once a week). So eubanks would be 1 in 50. So extrapolate the Eubanks to the national stats and that makes 100 across the country riding like Eubank. With 20 motorcyclist fatalities on the roads last year its easy to see how just 20% of the Eubanks could have been wiped out especially if they had just a beer or two.

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Old 31st July 2018, 06:17 PM
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My biggest problem with these stats is even if someone who might be marginly over the limit is in an accident through no fault of there own,its still classed as a drink relatited also any scumbag stealing,joy riding or on the way to a hit shouldnt be counted..we all know dumbholes that act the ring but i think there few and far at this stage.take into account age new laws and amount (bikes)on the roads now ild like to see stats for 12/18
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Old 31st July 2018, 06:41 PM
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Some drunk in a cage could hit and kill a sober biker and that bikers death is now alcohol related, never trust a statistic you haven't manipulated yourself
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Old 31st July 2018, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PJ
Local bike "club/enthusiasts" idea of a Sunday spin is a pub crawl.
Not a bunch of young lads either. They are not a minority either. I know
plenty at it.
I could never have a pint when I had a road
bike, eyes used to go as soon as I put my helmet on, just couldn't focus.
100% know plenty of lads like this. Every stop I have a coffee they have beer. All 60+ years.
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Old 31st July 2018, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bandit0
100% know plenty of lads like this. Every stop I have a coffee they have beer. All 60+ years.
Lite...??
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Old 31st July 2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bandit0
100% know plenty of lads like this. Every stop I have a coffee they have beer. All 60+ years.
In the old days having 6 pints had the same affect as fitting a super-charger to the ould bike. I would never condone that sort of behaviour.
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Old 31st July 2018, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sidecarwillie
In the old days having 6 pints had the same affect as fitting a super-charger to the ould bike. I would never condone that sort of behaviour.
Reminds me of twenty years ago on my Suzuki fz 50, screaming born to be wild in my lid, while I went top speed down the road. I think it was about 28 Mph.
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