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Old 26th July 2018, 08:31 PM
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Hey. Just booked my test. Iím on my 3rd permet. Am 32. Just wondering if I need to do the lgbt before I do the test. Thanks
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc tattoo
Hey. Just booked my test. Iím on my 3rd permet. Am 32. Just wondering if I need to do the lgbt before I do the test. Thanks
Too many variables to give a simple yes/no answer.

When did you receive your first bike learner permit?

Which categories were listed on it?

Which categories are listed on your current learner permit?

Which category test are you planning to take?

The current rules are that you must complete your compulsory training
before you take to the road. Answers to the above questions will help
us to give a more detailed answer.
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:58 PM
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I done my theory test about 16 yrs ago. When it was the car and bike test. A/a1. I’m planning on doin the test for the category a
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Old 26th July 2018, 10:35 PM
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I done my theory test about 16 yrs ago. When it was the car and bike test. A/a1. Iím planning on doin the test for the category a
You need to do some research mate
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Old 26th July 2018, 10:45 PM
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I done my theory test about 16 yrs ago. When it was the car and bike test. A/a1. Iím planning on doin the test for the category a
You don't even need a license now. You got one by default!

Just kidding, your old theory test means fuck all now
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Old 27th July 2018, 08:02 AM
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Ok cheers. I’ll have to have a look into it. Thanks tho
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Old 3rd August 2018, 08:53 PM
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So I have my a licence since July 2009. On the rsa website it says lgbt applies for those who had there first permit on or after 6 December 2010. I was talking to an instructor and he said Iíd still have to do some more than likely. I wasnít too sure when I had received the licence at the time. As I was still waiting to get it back from the ndls. Does anyone know if thereís still a module Iíd have to do. Thanks doc
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Old 3rd August 2018, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc tattoo
So I have my a licence since July 2009. On the rsa website it says lgbt applies for those who had there first permit on or after 6 December 2010.
If you held a category A learner permit prior to Dec 2010 AND it has
not had a gap in validity longer than 5 years, you are exempt from
mandatory training for category A2.

I was talking to an instructor and he said Iíd still have to do some more than likely.
A bike instructor should be familiar with the current rules.

I wasnít too sure when I had received the licence at the time. As I was still waiting to get it back from the ndls. Does anyone know if thereís still a module Iíd have to do. Thanks doc
If you meet the conditions above, you can take the category A2 test
without having to do any training modules.

If your permit expired and wasn't renewed within five years, you must
start from scratch.

If you wish to take the category A test, you will need to complete
modules 1,3,5 (18 hours) on a category A bike.

The only exemptions I know of are:

If you held a category A provisional licence and subsequently an A
learner permit since 1999, without a gap in validity exceeding five years,
you are exempt from everything and you can take the A test now.

Become a Garda and complete the standard motorcycle
course (160 hours).



Assuming you are exempt from training for A2, your choices are:

Option 1
Do the A2 test now. You will have the option to upgrade to
A after you have held the full A2 licence for two years.
You won't need to do another test, but you will need to
do the necessary training.

Option 2
Do the necessary training now and then take the category A test.


The only advantage to doing the A2 test now is that it
would kick the cost of training two years down the road.
The disadvantage is that you will be limited to 35kW for
at least the next two years.
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Old 3rd August 2018, 11:18 PM
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Ok. Grand. Iv only got a 400 so I’ll more than likely do the a2 and go from there. Thanks very much for the info. Much appreciated. Thanks. Doc
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Old 4th August 2018, 11:07 AM
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LGBT? Really

Hilarious edit lads
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LGBT? Really

Hilarious edit lads
its the wordchanger
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Old 4th August 2018, 03:33 PM
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My advice as someone who was in a similar situation, is to contact the RSA by email. In my experience every time I rang them I got a different answer.

I was under the understanding that my A permit would be taken, I'd do the A2 test and after 2 years bump up to a with 13 hours training.

When I went about doing the 13 hours training I found out I'd have to still sit modules 1 and 3 which meant 18 hours. I'm still contesting this sillyness with the RSA.

A2 category is a pain to find bikes to fit into too unless you're into new machinery.
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Old 4th August 2018, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by funk
My advice as someone who was in a similar situation, is to contact the RSA by email. In my experience every time I rang them I got a different answer.
They don't do any better with e-mail or printed letters.

I was under the understanding that my A permit would be taken, I'd do the A2 test and after 2 years bump up to a with 13 hours training.
That is correct except that the time for the conversion module (5) is 11 hours.

When I went about doing the 13 hours training I found out I'd have to still sit modules 1 and 3 which meant 18 hours. I'm still contesting this sillyness with the RSA.
The conversion module is for those that have previously done training
for a lesser category. If you have never done mandatory training, you need
to do full (modules 1,3,5) to put a category A bike on the road.

A2 category is a pain to find bikes to fit into too unless you're into new machinery.
There are plenty of bikes than can be ridden on an A2 licence/permit. The
big problem is that many of them are not suitable for the RSA test.
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Old 4th August 2018, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Confusion



That is correct except that the time for the conversion module (5) is 11 hours.


The conversion module is for those that have previously done training
for a lesser category. If you have never done mandatory training, you need
to do full (modules 1,3,5) to put a category A bike on the road.



There are plenty of bikes than can be ridden on an A2 licence/permit. The
big problem is that many of them are not suitable for the RSA test.
My mistake you're right 11 hours.


It's a harsh sentence for anyone who has passed the test and has a few years of experience under their belt to have to go back and and do these basic modules. Eg. Module 1

Module 1
Module 1 focuses on theory and practical skills and will take place in the classroom and the off-road training area. It will take at least three hours to complete and has six objectives:

1. Personal protective equipment (PPE)
2. Introduction to motorcycle controls
3. Technical checks
4. Placing motorcycle on and off the stand
5. Walking alongside the motorcycle
6. How to start and stop the engine ((including precautions for mounting and dismounting)

And that's not me saying I know it all, there's plenty to learn, I jus think 3 hours could be better spent with an experienced driver, or this information could be drafted into the 11 hours. Amazing too that the EDT can be done in 12 by someone with no experience.

You're right there are a good few bikes, but all the messing with restrictions and stuff is simply a pain when trying to buy. Especially for machines 1 or 2 hp outside the limit.

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Old 4th August 2018, 08:31 PM
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Great info lads. I have a 04 cb400 spec3. I usually only drive bikes on the nicer days. So the cc isnít really an issue for me. Once I get to go out. That suits me fine. Loli only canceled my test as I booked it for the a. But I wouldnít get a date till the lgbt was complete. So as soon as I get confirmation itís canceled Iíll rebook for the a2 and see what happens. Thanks doc
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