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Old 18th March 2012, 08:27 PM
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I have my first track day coming up on the 13 april and need to get the finger out and get the bike ready for it. Its my first trackbike, a k2 gsxr 600 that i bought a few weeks ago.

what kind of oil should i use, fully or part synthetic? What grade?
I planned on using hi flo air and oil filter and ngk iridium plugs, should i be using something else?

I wil be getting new tyres, valve clearences done, maybe a brake fluid change and a general checkover. Is there anything else i should or have to do before i take it to the track?
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Old 18th March 2012, 08:32 PM
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If ya can afford the fully synthetic use it and if u wanted you could drain out coolant if thats whats in the rad and use water only just in case u lay it down coolant is as bad as oil on a track surface
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:01 PM
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by goughy
If ya can afford the fully synthetic use it and if u wanted you could drain out coolant if thats whats in the rad and use water only just in case u lay it down coolant is as bad as oil on a track surface
oh is that why they use water in race bikes,
always wondered
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:19 PM
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What fucking use is rolling yer eyes at a guy with a genuine question asking for a bit of help and a second post to a guy helping ..

Cunts like you ruin this forum.. fuck off
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Yer based in Carrigaline aint yeah?.. I'm only over the hill so if ya need a hand/tools drop me a pm and i'll swing by no bother
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by goughy
If ya can afford the fully synthetic use it and if u wanted you could drain out coolant if thats whats in the rad and use water only just in case u lay it down coolant is as bad as oil on a track surface
Learn somethin new every day
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:22 PM
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Old 18th March 2012, 09:30 PM
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I was only thinkin', for a first track day, he could have done without the layin' it down bit of advice. But I'm only an old fucking cunt, what would I know
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Old 18th March 2012, 10:28 PM
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As said above, make sure theres no coolant in the water, has to be 100% pure water. you might also wanna put race brake fluid in, its a lot more expensive but has a much higher boiling point so will perform way better over long periods of hard use. Apart from that just make sure everything is tight, double check everything after each run for leaks, loose bolts, anything basically that can cause you or anyone else harm, get into the habbit of checking your bike over every time
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Old 18th March 2012, 10:37 PM
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Old 19th March 2012, 12:08 AM
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Don't use your tap water if u live in a hard water area... You've seen what it can do to your kettle
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Old 19th March 2012, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Irish ek
I have my first track day coming up on the 13 april and need to get the finger out and get the bike ready for it. Its my first trackbike, a k2 gsxr 600 that i bought a few weeks ago.

what kind of oil should i use, fully or part synthetic? What grade?
I planned on using hi flo air and oil filter and ngk iridium plugs, should i be using something else?

I wil be getting new tyres, valve clearences done, maybe a brake fluid change and a general checkover. Is there anything else i should or have to do before i take it to the track?
It all depends on your budget lad, putting a decent track bike together can be a bottomless pit of money but do the basics first. Upgrade your brakes with some Goodrich hosing & high friction pads. A good steering damper is also a must, there's two of them for sale on Adverts.ie.

A lot of guys who pack in the racing often break & sell parts from their race bikes so keep an eye on the 2nd hand buy & sell sites for a decent race shock & stiffer fork springs, probably source these from Ebay. You could change the fork oil to a heavier grade for better damping.

I did a bit of racing back in the day & the first time I drove around Mondello was absolutely nerve-Wracking. I thought I was mad on the road until other lads on the track showed me what riding a bike hard was all about. The main thing is to enjoy yourself, take it slowly first as the more you practice the better you get.

Pick out an experienced rider on the circuit with a similar bike & follow them around for a few laps. You don't have to kill yourself trying to keep up but copy their braking points & lines into the corners, it's completely different to being on the road. The first time you get your knee down on a corner is a brillant sensation, fills you full of confidence & you start getting quicker & quicker.
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by goughy
If ya can afford the fully synthetic use it and if u wanted you could drain out coolant if thats whats in the rad and use water only just in case u lay it down coolant is as bad as oil on a track surface
i thought it was fully synthetic for race / track bikes alright. fully it is then! what weight should be used, 10W 40? And cheers for the water tip, i didnt have a clue of that. you learn something new every day!

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Cheers hedz. i serviced my road bike for the first time there about 5 weeks ago, what i thought would take an hour took 3
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. i did oil, filters and plugs, may chance these + coolant on the track bike! if i run into any probs i will give you a shout though
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. and im not too far from carrigaline, midleton is only down the road!


Originally Posted by UlickMcGee
It all depends on your budget lad, putting a decent track bike together can be a bottomless pit of money but do the basics first. Upgrade your brakes with some Goodrich hosing & high friction pads. A good steering damper is also a must, there's two of them for sale on Adverts.ie.

A lot of guys who pack in the racing often break & sell parts from their race bikes so keep an eye on the 2nd hand buy & sell sites for a decent race shock & stiffer fork springs, probably source these from Ebay. You could change the fork oil to a heavier grade for better damping.

I did a bit of racing back in the day & the first time I drove around Mondello was absolutely nerve-Wracking. I thought I was mad on the road until other lads on the track showed me what riding a bike hard was all about. The main thing is to enjoy yourself, take it slowly first as the more you practice the better you get.

Pick out an experienced rider on the circuit with a similar bike & follow them around for a few laps. You don't have to kill yourself trying to keep up but copy their braking points & lines into the corners, it's completely different to being on the road. The first time you get your knee down on a corner is a brillant sensation, fills you full of confidence & you start getting quicker & quicker.
the brakes seem to be alright at the moment. it has stainless braided HEL front lines and EBC HH pads front and rear. will change brake fluid to race type as recommended though. the OEM steering damper is still in place, its not the most modern by any means now but it is better then nothing. maybe upgraded when funds allow. it also has fully adjustable Penske rear shock and upgraded front springs. not sure of the rate though. will add heavier fork oil to the list!

i am absolutely sh*****g it to be honest and its still 3 weeks away. but at the same time i cant wait for it. i have never done a trackday before so will be a complete beginner in the novice class, but am very lucky as its my bike club organising the day
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. some of the club members who will be there on the day are very experienced racers, both in short circuit, roads and even the TT. there will be a lot to be learned from these guys. bring it on
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:37 AM
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Old 20th March 2012, 02:58 AM
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Some of the older bike do not like Fully sinthetic oil, clutch would slip so check your manual if you have one.
Semi-sinthetic is fine considering that you are suppose to change it after every 2nd meeting or so, i change mine after one race weekend if i have the money.
Make sure your calipers are safety wired.
Check tire pressures, roughly 32front, 28 rear for most tires except for Dunlops N-Tec's.

Drink plenty of water through out the day. come up to one of the marshals in garage#1 and ask him to follow you and then show you some good line and then have a chat with that marshal after the session for feedback.
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:40 AM
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i am absolutely sh*****g it to be honest and its still 3 weeks away. but at the same time i cant wait for it. i have never done a trackday before so will be a complete beginner in the novice class, but am very lucky as its my bike club organising the day

i wudnt worry about bein nervous most racers from novices to isb riders are nervous when gettin on the bike after the winter break,your not alone there, main thing is to concentrate on enjoyin the day and the rest will fall into place.
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Old 20th March 2012, 10:33 AM
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i am absolutely sh*****g it to be honest and its still 3 weeks away. but at the same time i cant wait for it. i have never done a trackday before so will be a complete beginner in the novice class, but am very lucky as its my bike club organising the day

i wudnt worry about bein nervous most racers from novices to isb riders are nervous when gettin on the bike after the winter break,your not alone there, main thing is to concentrate on enjoyin the day and the rest will fall into place.
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nerves is good dude,. keeps the senses alert,. & the drugs pumping,. which is a requriement for racing
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keep it simple,. just ride normally, not race mode, build yer speed gradually, try and tail someone who looks like they are using smooth lines,. SMOOTH BABY,.SMOOTH
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Old 20th March 2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrei "The Russian"
Some of the older bike do not like Fully sinthetic oil, clutch would slip so check your manual if you have one.
Semi-sinthetic is fine considering that you are suppose to change it after every 2nd meeting or so, i change mine after one race weekend if i have the money.
Make sure your calipers are safety wired.
Check tire pressures, roughly 32front, 28 rear for most tires except for Dunlops N-Tec's.

Drink plenty of water through out the day. come up to one of the marshals in garage#1 and ask him to follow you and then show you some good line and then have a chat with that marshal after the session for feedback.
Enjoy.
some of the top road racing lads are using the semi synth .the ester based motul 5100 is good tack
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