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Old 19th July 2011, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by Blanka
is it unusual to have 5 valves in one cylinder? the head looks weird
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It is, but not for a Genesis engine. Three-in, two-out.
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Old 19th July 2011, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by floo
1. is all the shims the same?
2. say no matter Yamaha or Honda?
3. or like all Yamaha has one type ?
4. or every bike uses different type of shims
5. is "shim" means adjusting pad?
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Old 20th July 2011, 11:30 PM
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shims needed are 135, 172(170), 140, 150, 150, 175 & 160.
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3 shims had been shaved by what looks to be a grinder, mother of god
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I haven't come across these type shims before, there a bucket shim within the bucket! 7mm in diameter and 2.2mm deep they fit into the top of the valves.


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Old 20th July 2011, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by benny13
shims needed are 167(170), 172(170), 160, 178(180), 150, 175 & 160.

3 shims had been shaved by what looks to be a grinder, mother of god
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I haven't come across these type shims before, there a bucket shim within the bucket! 7mm in diameter and 2.2mm deep they fit into the top of the valves.


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ill check sizes on sat and see what i have,will prob have the ones ya need, fookers of shims alright, fookers to get back in too
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Old 20th July 2011, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by chopper
ill check sizes on sat and see what i have,will prob have the ones ya need, fookers of shims alright, fookers to get back in too
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Why don't you rob one of them scopes tomorrow could come in handy
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Old 20th July 2011, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by chopper
ill check sizes on sat and see what i have,will prob have the ones ya need, fookers of shims alright, fookers to get back in too
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sound chopper
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measured the cut shims there so the 7 needed are actually:
135, 172(170), 140, 150, 150, 175 & 160.

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I'd say it'll be fun alright
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Old 21st July 2011, 12:08 AM
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are the buckets ok that were on them crap shims ?
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Old 21st July 2011, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by chopper
better fun pullin yokes apart
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Old 25th July 2011, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by benny13
ha! only thought of that this morning too, I'll have to check when I get home
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buckets are grand thank god
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Old 27th July 2011, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by benny13
no bother, thanks anyway chopper. I have been looking into it (yamaha sites in the uk) and so far all replys are saying that I can only get from 150 up
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nobody has any of the lesser left
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could you recommend anywhere to try.
danfay get em for me
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Old 27th July 2011, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by chopper
danfay get em for me
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excellent, thanks
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just dawned on me that Tyner is a Yam dealer, will try him first
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Old 3rd August 2011, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

got the clearances done with chopper last week
its hard to believe its the same bike
an easy 10-15 bhp and loads more torque
the big thing is how much smoother the power delivery is
so to any lad looking for performance gains
make sure your clearance are to spec
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Old 12th August 2011, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

any 29mm shimmys floatin lads?
looking for
1 x 2.45
2 x 2.50
1 x 2.55
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Old 24th August 2011, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by benny13
I'm after locating shims that are the correct size but they're from a different bike the FZ750 late 80's. Does anyone know if they're the same type shims in them as the FZX750 bucket shims pictured above?
My only other option is to get thicker shims and shave off to the depth I need
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cheers
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question answered, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
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wrong size I want, but now I know they will fit
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Old 15th September 2011, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Tell me this: I understand a few bikes have used hydraulic cam-followers (e.g. some of the old Magna V4s), thus maintaining (in theory, at least!) a zero-clearance at all times via engine oil trickery. Is the reason these aren't more popular on bikes to do with the high engine speeds? Speak, ye Gods!!
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Old 15th September 2011, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by jimgoose
Tell me this: I understand a few bikes have used hydraulic cam-followers (e.g. some of the old Magna V4s), thus maintaining (in theory, at least!) a zero-clearance at all times via engine oil trickery. Is the reason these aren't more popular on bikes to do with the high engine speeds? Speak, ye Gods!!
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IMO.......
some of the bikes with that sys had probs when the bikes were lying up for a while, oil drained out and starting the bike diddnt automaticly bleed them up again .thus there was expensive work involved stripping off parts to rectify the prob.
iirc the vn1500 needed the motor out to do it and the fuckers shaft drive and all. had to put one of them engines in by meself one time , its not fookin easy .
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Old 15th September 2011, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Originally Posted by chopper
IMO.......
some of the bikes with that sys had probs when the bikes were lying up for a while, oil drained out and starting the bike diddnt automaticly bleed them up again .thus there was expensive work involved stripping off parts to rectify the prob.
iirc the vn1500 needed the motor out to do it and the fuckers shaft drive and all. had to put one of them engines in by meself one time , its not fookin easy .
I see. Not so much to do with revs, then? They might have another go at it one of the days - it seems to work fairly well on modern yokes-with-too-many-wheels.
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Old 23rd April 2012, 01:52 PM
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thread cleaned up a bit
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Old 8th June 2012, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: valve clearance questions (started as zxr400 questions)

Hi guys, or probably Chopper, more specifically. Planning on checking/adjusting the valve clearances on my 01 XJR1300 over the weekend and just remembered the book calls for a special tool to hold the followers down. Is there anything else you can use or do I need to get one? Thanks, Mick.
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Old 8th June 2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eirehead
Hi guys, or probably Chopper, more specifically. Planning on checking/adjusting the valve clearances on my 01 XJR1300 over the weekend and just remembered the book calls for a special tool to hold the followers down. Is there anything else you can use or do I need to get one? Thanks, Mick.
This works on xj750, xjr is only a similar bigger engine

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