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mudafuda 11th June 2018 09:38 PM

Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
Hey lads,

Looking for a bit of advice from someone who may have done this before. The ABS unit on the bike died so I decided to get rid of it (the unit not the bike). After a bit of a google search it seemed fairly straight forward. Replaced all the lines while I was at it with braided ones.

All went well apart from the electrical side .... The ABS unit itself controls the speedo and the brake lights, so I removed the electrical part and kept that plugged in (As per Chris Harris' vid on youtube).

All seems grand apart from the brake lights being on all the time.

So my question is does anyone know how to get them to work? (I know its something to do with providing a live to the 2 brake light switch wires in the top of the ABS unit but I havent got a clue which ones)

Any Ideas?

Cheers

renniks 12th June 2018 11:29 AM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
On my 1150GS, I removed the electrical component from the ABS unit/reservoir, and plugged the wiring connector back into it - I think this is mentioned in Chris Harris' vids for the 1150GS - may be the same for the 1200 but maybe not.
I had to drill out a few security bolt heads, then was able to seperate the reservoir/pump motor part from the circuit board section.
It's either that, or reusing relays from the pump as ones for the running/brake light that sorts it out

mudafuda 12th June 2018 12:45 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=renniks;3541323]On my 1150GS, I removed the electrical component from the ABS unit/reservoir, and plugged the wiring connector back into it - I think this is mentioned in Chris Harris' vids for the 1150GS - may be the same for the 1200 but maybe not.
I had to drill out a few security bolt heads, then was able to seperate the reservoir/pump motor part from the circuit board section.
It's either that, or reusing relays from the pump as ones for the running/brake light that sorts it out[/quote]

Cheers renniks

Yeah I separated the circuit board section and plugged that back in. I thought everything should work after that but for some reason the brake lights are on constantly.
Think I need a wiring diagram :bag:

There's a possibility I left something unplugged that might be causing the issue... will check this tonight.

renniks 12th June 2018 01:40 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=mudafuda;3541330]Cheers renniks

Yeah I separated the circuit board section and plugged that back in. I thought everything should work after that but for some reason the brake lights are on constantly.
Think I need a wiring diagram :bag:

There's a possibility I left something unplugged that might be causing the issue... will check this tonight.[/quote]

Here's a post that mentions reusing the ABS relay for the brake lights - I knew I'd seen it somewhere! This worked for me on the 1150 - it may do the job for you on the 1200 with any luck!

[URL="http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/232002-Simple-NO-COST-servo-removal-of-1150-IABS-system"]http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/232002-Simple-NO-COST-servo-removal-of-1150-IABS-system[/URL]

trd 12th June 2018 02:15 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
Join eurokclub.bike , there will surely be plenty who have done it before on a k series.

mudafuda 12th June 2018 06:02 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=renniks;3541336]Here's a post that mentions reusing the ABS relay for the brake lights - I knew I'd seen it somewhere! This worked for me on the 1150 - it may do the job for you on the 1200 with any luck!

[URL="http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/232002-Simple-NO-COST-servo-removal-of-1150-IABS-system"]http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/232002-Simple-NO-COST-servo-removal-of-1150-IABS-system[/URL][/quote]

Great information in that link ..... Thanks for the input man:bikerie: much appreciated

All sorted now, turned out it was a broken front master cylinder wire up near the headstock.

Vjmc.Cork 12th June 2018 08:40 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
Are there implications for ins in the event of an accident if you have your abs removed?

The comb over kid 12th June 2018 09:45 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
Stick of dynamite:thumbsup2:

mudafuda 12th June 2018 09:49 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=Vjmc.Cork;3541406]Are there implications for ins in the event of an accident if you have your abs removed?[/quote]

Whats ABS? :thumbsup2:

Vjmc.Cork 12th June 2018 10:06 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=mudafuda;3541421]Whats ABS? :thumbsup2:[/quote]

If your bike came with abs fitted and you remove it your ins company will
tell you to f off if you have an accident."Brakes modified by owner"
Tis up to you,your bike an all,just something to be aware of.

mudafuda 12th June 2018 10:54 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=Vjmc.Cork;3541424]If your bike came with abs fitted and you remove it your ins company will
tell you to f off if you have an accident."Brakes modified by owner"
Tis up to you,your bike an all,just something to be aware of.[/quote]

I get what you mean dude, but a bike with no or very little brakes/dodgy abs is far more dangerous imho. I'll take my chances with the insurance ... hopefully I wont need it seems as I can stop real good now.:woots:

As for the modifications .... wonder where they draw the line? Is an aftermarket exhaust ok seems as its not a safety device? or what about aftermarket brake levers...would you tell your insurance company if you changed them? (just wondering, not havin a go at ya)

max kady 12th June 2018 11:05 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
i had a k 1200 lt ,the abs was dodgey.one minute i had a soft front lever and no brakes,then the opposite would happen,driving thru a town and the front brake started activating itself,lucky i was only tiddling thru a town,imagine if i was on a motorway,the first and last bmw i ll ever have,wat to do?sell it and buy a japanese bike

Vjmc.Cork 13th June 2018 02:56 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=mudafuda;3541443]I get what you mean dude, but a bike with no or very little brakes/dodgy abs is far more dangerous imho. I'll take my chances with the insurance ... hopefully I wont need it seems as I can stop real good now.:woots:

As for the modifications .... wonder where they draw the line? Is an aftermarket exhaust ok seems as its not a safety device? or what about aftermarket brake levers...would you tell your insurance company if you changed them? (just wondering, not havin a go at ya)[/quote]

I know what you're saying but if you have an accident the ins cnuts will look at your bike and say
"You removed a vital safety feature" and drop you like a stone.Then you'll be on the hook for any and all costs even if the accident wasn't your fault.
Not trying to rain on your parade but that's the way the world works nowadays.

renniks 13th June 2018 03:07 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=Vjmc.Cork;3541593]I know what you're saying but if you have an accident the ins cnuts will look at your bike and say
"You removed a vital safety feature" and drop you like a stone.Then you'll be on the hook for any and all costs even if the accident wasn't your fault.
Not trying to rain on your parade but that's the way the world works nowadays.[/quote]

To which you say "no I didn't, it must have been the previous owner" - they can't prove who removed the system

Vjmc.Cork 13th June 2018 03:11 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=renniks;3541595]To which you say "no I didn't, it must have been the previous owner" - they can't prove who removed the system[/quote]

They don't need to,they don't give a fiddlers,they just want an escape.

renniks 13th June 2018 03:19 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=Vjmc.Cork;3541596]They don't need to,they don't give a fiddlers,they just want an escape.[/quote]

as mentioned above, if insurance was optional, I'd say the number of people that would actually pay for it would be very low

Vjmc.Cork 13th June 2018 03:56 PM

Re: Advice needed: BMW K1200rs ABS removal
 
[quote=renniks;3541597]as mentioned above, if insurance was optional, I'd say the number of people that would actually pay for it would be very low[/quote]

There'd be a lot less accidents if that happened.


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