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Southern Rider 11th October 2018 11:06 AM

Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
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PJ 11th October 2018 11:12 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
No winners in that scenario.
Car driver speeding and Nicky going through a stop sign
with ear phones in. All too common these days.

Weevil 2.0 11th October 2018 03:16 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
Sad for all involved. 70 in 50 zone, I defo wont be in a rush to cast a stone...

Holy Moly 11th October 2018 07:14 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=PJ;3554284]No winners in that scenario.
Car driver speeding and Nicky going through a stop sign
with ear phones in. All too common these days.[/quote]

See some cagers with the big earmuff headphones these days now. I think that's nuts, senses being swarmed and overridden by I assume loud music.
Sad accident though.

cracker boy 11th October 2018 08:31 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
I had an accident last year on me bike...........a renault traffic van decided it wanted to make friends with my GS while I was overtaking it.

After I picked myself up, picked the bike up and checked none of my limbs where broken I exchanged details with the van driver.....I noticed some crazy loud death metal shite coming from his earbuds that where now dangling around his neck.
My yoke had full exhaust (headers and Remus can) with a K&N.......it ain't quite and he didn't hear me along side him.

I'm rambling on now .....sorry.


RIP Nicky

Jack stowage 11th October 2018 09:37 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=cracker boy;3554334]I had an accident last year on me bike...........a renault traffic van decided it wanted to make friends with my GS while I was overtaking it.

After I picked myself up, picked the bike up and checked none of my limbs where broken I exchanged details with the van driver.....I noticed some crazy loud death metal shite coming from his earbuds that where now dangling around his neck.
My yoke had full exhaust (headers and Remus can) with a K&N.......it ain't quite and he didn't hear me along side him.

I'm rambling on now .....sorry.


[/quote]


Oh , he heard you alright......:lbhbh:

green grass 11th October 2018 10:12 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
How can any blame be put on the driver of the car? Surely if you break a stop sign you're responsible for anything that may happen while doing so. I remember after this tragic accident happened I went off on one here...saying how people's attitude to cyclists stank. Well in this instance the cyclists was in the wrong.

Rip Nicky, and I hope the family drop their civil action and leave the driver alone. He has been through enough.

As was already said.....no winners in this one

pedrosixfour 12th October 2018 02:08 AM

[quote=green grass;3554348]How can any blame be put on the driver of the car?[/quote]

His over-speeding was proven to be a contributing factor in the death of Nicky.

Had he been travelling within the speed limit, the fatality, if not the collision, may very well have been avoided, according to the experts. Hence the apportioned blame.

allsorts&oddjobs 12th October 2018 03:25 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=pedrosixfour;3554360]His over-speeding was proven to be a contributing factor in the death of Nicky.

Had he been travelling within the speed limit, the fatality, if not the collision, may very well have been avoided, according to the experts. Hence the apportioned blame.[/quote]

yeah, maybe so, but he wasnt actually flying, he was over the limit alright but not nuts, no more than most people do, i feel sorry for the poor sod.

Jack stowage 12th October 2018 09:31 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=allsorts&oddjobs;3554361]yeah, maybe so, but he wasnt actually flying, he was over the limit alright but not nuts, no more than most people do, i feel sorry for the poor sod.[/quote]

Its a case of "two wrongs" here..even 5mph slower/faster means the car would be in a different place. ....unfortunately for Nicky he chose to do what most cyclists do every day...

galway86 12th October 2018 09:50 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
I said it before and I'll say it again, the person with the most to loose should take the most care.
Being 'right' is no use if your dead.
Cyclists get a bad rap because they seem to put themselves in dangerous situations more than any other person on the road in the pursuit of being 'right'.
Not excusing driver speeding but he didnt cause it,
Rip lad

pedrosixfour 12th October 2018 09:58 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=allsorts&oddjobs;3554361]yeah, maybe so, but he wasnt actually flying, [B]he was over the limit[/B] alright but not nuts, no more than most people do, i feel sorry for the poor sod.[/quote]

And that is the only fact the prosecutor needed. Not by how much or whether everyone else does it.

And I feel no less sorry for him than you do.

allsorts&oddjobs 12th October 2018 11:26 AM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
Yep, fair enough, not excusing him, just feel sorry for him.

GONKO 12th October 2018 12:29 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
Nicky caused this by ignoring a stop sign. Sure the outcome was made worse by the speed.
The Hayden family should drop the lawsuit here. It is a tragic accident that Nicky caused, not the cager.
As for speeding.....look if he had of adhered to the stop sign, the accident doesn't happen. Who is to say had the cager been going slower that a death still would not have occurred.
The Hayden family going for blood here is disgusting.

renniks 12th October 2018 12:34 PM

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[quote=GONKO;3554383]
The Hayden family going for blood here is disgusting.[/quote]

Sue sue sue is the American Way dontcha know

pedrosixfour 12th October 2018 02:15 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=GONKO;3554383]Who is to say had the cager been going slower that a death still would not have occurred.[/quote]

The expert that was called upon to make the decision.

It was on this decision that the driver was sentenced.

Am I the only one who can see my posts? :thumbsup2:

Admin 12th October 2018 02:27 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
I would imagine all of Nickys estate went to his parents, and as there were no real 'dependents' living off him - there probably shouldn't be any 6 million euro payout in the event of an accident, regardless of who was at fault.

What if he wasn't even talking to his parents at the time, why should they be entitled to a windfall just because he rode out in front of passing traffic?

If he had 16 kids, and they were all going hungry ~ then fair enough, but common sense will no doubt prevail and they will be advised to withdraw that claim.

Those saying Nicky's life could have been saved had that driver been travelling 5mph slower - would obviously not agree that somebody living with multiple fractures to his vertebrae being rolled around in a wheelchair for the rest of his days and eating meals thru a straw while literally not being able to wipe his own arse following severe head trauma against that windscreen - is [I]probably[/I] better off dead.

cbroar 12th October 2018 06:53 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
I think the contributory factor here with the cage is, if it is going 20kms slower then the cage and Nicky don't occupy the same space at the intersection and the accident doesn't happen, not that a lower speed results in lesser injuries instead of death. I know if Nicky doesn't run the stop the accident doesn't happen either. As said no winners here and Godspeed Nicky.

Gixxer 12th October 2018 07:10 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
Cage driver should have been done for speeding. Nothing else.

galway86 12th October 2018 07:21 PM

Re: Driver involved with Nicky Hayden death, sentenced.
 
[quote=cbroar;3554422]I think the contributory factor here with the cage is, if it is going 20kms slower then the cage and Nicky don't occupy the same space at the intersection and the accident doesn't happen, [/quote]

Thats the worst analogy I've ever read, sure that would adversly affect everyone in every aspect of life for ever,


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