Insurance Groups

[Doolittle]

Disclaimer! The following information may be totally wrong/out of date

Insurance Group 5

Honda Bros 400
Honda CBR 250 250R
Honda Flat Tracker
Suzuki GSX 400
Suzuki Bandit 600 [b]Factory Restricted Version!
Yamaha XVS 400 DRAGSTAR

Insurance Group 6

Honda Shadow 750
Honda Transalp 400
Honda XL 250
Honda Hornet 250
Kawasaki VN1500
Kawasaki VN1600 Classic
Kawsaki VN2000
Suzuki GS500E
Yamaha Virago 400
Yamaha XT 400

Insurance Group 7

Honda Deauville 650
Honda Dominator 650
Kawasaki EN500
Kawasaki VN800 Classic
Kawasaki VN1600 Mean Streak
Yamaha TTR 250

Insurance Group 8

BMW F650
Honda GL 1500
Honda CB400 Super Four
Honda CBR400RR
Honda Transalp 650
Honda NC30 VFR400R
Honda VT 1100
Kawasaki ER-5
Kawasaki ZXR400L
Suzuki Intruder 1400


Insurance Group 9

Aprilla Pegaso 650
BMW R 1150 RT
Honda CB500
Honda ST 1100

Insurance Group 10

Honda CB1000 Super Four
Honda X4
Honda XL 1000 (Varadero)
Kawasaki Z750
Kawasaki
Suzuki Bandit 600
Suzuki SV650

Insurance Group 11

Aprilla Caponord
Aprilla RST1000 Futura
BMW R1100S
Honda CBR600F
Honda VFR 800
Kawasaki KLV 1000
Suzuki RF900
Yamaha XJR 1300

Insurance Group 12

Aprilla RSV 1000 ®
Aprilla Tuono 1200
Kawasaki Z1000
Kawasaki ZX6R
Kawasaki ZX9R
Suzuki GSF 1200N
Yamaha FZR 750
Yamaha YZF 1200R





Please post additions/amendments. Thought it would be handy to have a list which includes older bikes and imports, as not listed in BBG

[Big H]

For a start Suzukis SV650 is group 9 or 10 but certainly not group 7......

[Doolittle]

Thanks, does sound a bit suspect alright (I blame motomax.ie (To view pics on this biker's forum - your post count must be 2 or greater.) website for that info, have transalp 400 as 5 not 6 as well), will check bbg when I get home and amend :)

Okay googled and it's a 10

[Technician]

The VN800 is group 8 as far as I remember.

[Big H]

BBG is full of indescrepencies too BTW......

[NimmyZed]

And my Zed..........



[b]GROUP 12

:o




(1400 Oozos fully comp)

[Technician]

None of the grp 12's were listed, safe to say anything remotely interesting is of course AXA grp 12.

[NimmyZed]

Originally posted by Doolittle@Sep 27 2005, 10:36 AM
[b]Okay googled and it's a 10
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Doolitte, what site did you find the groups on? I can only find UK sites.

[Technician]

Bikeworld.ie (To view pics on this biker's forum - your post count must be 2 or greater.) also publish AXA insurance groups in their 'New Bikes' section.

[Doolittle]

Originally posted by NimmyZed@Sep 27 2005, 11:19 AM
[b]Doolitte, what site did you find the groups on?* I can only find UK sites.
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By looking at irish dealer's websites (got some from bbg website).
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To view pics on this biker's forum - your post count must be 2 or greater. (To view pics on this biker's forum - your post count must be 2 or greater.) (though their listings a bit unreliable!)
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Also will fill in more from Bike Buyers Guide listings. The problem with their list is that it only covers new bikes officially sold on the irish market, so no imports/older bikes.

[Doolittle]

Originally posted by Technician@Sep 27 2005, 11:26 AM
[b]Bikeworld.ie also publish AXA insurance groups in their 'New Bikes' section.
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Might be a fly in the ointment for my list. Do dealers general list AXA or CN groups? Or do they both operate off the same list?

Forgot about broke world, will add some more listings. Man, it's quiet at work today :sleep1:

[NimmyZed]

Originally posted by Doolittle@Sep 27 2005, 11:35 AM
[b] Man, it's quiet at work today* :sleep1:
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yeah - same here. Boredom setting in. :icon2:

i want sum fun.

[Spoonman]

all wrong, the GS500 is group 7 and the NC30 is group 11, the firestorm is group 14, the B12 is group 15, the VFR is group 17.

the only half way reliable site for these grouping is here (To view pics on this biker's forum - your post count must be 2 or greater.), go to bike reviews and then into the buy-a-bike database - this is the only site officially endorsed by CN

[Technician]

Spoonman, you are referring to CN ins groups. The original poster refers to Hibernian/AXA ins groups.

[Doolittle]

Originally posted by Technician@Sep 27 2005, 12:34 PM
[b]Spoonman, you are referring to CN ins groups. The original poster refers to Hibernian/AXA ins groups.
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Will actually the original poster subtitled the post CN insurance groups :ph34r: He will probably edit it now :whistling:

So AXA go on a scale to 12 and CN use the same scale here as in UK? Handy link that so, bike reviews and all .

[Technician]

Ahem...looks like you got the two groups interwoven somehow :D

Wish I was getting AXA insurance group at the equivalent CN price...i.e. my AXA group 12 ZX9R insured for the equivalent CN group 12 CB500 or sumfin:P

[Doolittle]

Originally posted by Technician@Sep 27 2005, 01:54 PM
[b]Ahem...looks like you got the two groups interwoven somehow :D

Wish I was getting AXA insurance group at the equivalent CN price...i.e. my AXA group 12 ZX9R insured for the equivalent CN group 12 CB500 or sumfin:P
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:doh: At least it occupied a quiet morning...

If CN use the same groupings here as in UK, that link spoonman had is all I need to know. From the bikes I know it seems to check out. I think the list I wrote are the right AXA groupings now..maybe :ph34r:

[Spoonman]

@techie, CN was mentioned in the original post aswell and they're the groupings i'm sure of - apologies for any confusion.

note: the majority of the ins groupings on that site are correct but there are a few errors such as the SP1 being listed as group 14 instead of group 17

on another line, i'm still a tad doubtful about some of those AXA groupings.

CB500 (unless that's a super4 rather than a twin or something...) in the same group as the PAN??? ...they're not great but they're not *that* slow... :P

most of the others look ok though although i had expected that AXA would carry of HIB's groupings but it doesn't appear that they have.

[slyderx]

Originally posted by Doolittle@Sep 27 2005, 02:02 PM
[b]:doh: At least it occupied a quiet morning...

If CN use the same groupings here as in UK, that link spoonman had is all I need to know. From the bikes I know it seems to check out. I think the list I wrote are the right AXA groupings now..maybe* :ph34r:
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:lol: yeah and dont forget the makey uppy CN rating system ...a trike is rated at group 16 same as a fireblade except the trike has 37hp grrrrrrrrrrr

[Doolittle]

Originally posted by Spoonman@Sep 27 2005, 03:00 PM
[b]
CB500 (unless that's a super4 rather than a twin or something...) in the same group as the PAN???* ...they're not great but they're not *that* slow...* :P

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They obviously adjust for the risk of falling asleep at the wheel :lol:

[petrol head]

Its all a load of crap insurance groups the speed limit is 100 so really if your not going to break the limit whats the difference really what there doing is screwing you because you CAN break the speed limit that has to be wrong

[Camaroo]

and suzuki GSX-R 600 group is?

[Bino]

Originally posted by Camaroo@Nov 24 2005, 09:44 PM
[b]and suzuki GSX-R 600 group is?
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the fuckin' highest there is!
or at least it feels that way..........

[Camaroo]

insurance cost for me 30 euro!

[Bino]

Originally posted by Camaroo@Nov 24 2005, 09:48 PM
[b]insurance cost for me 30 euro!
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:huh:

[Camaroo]

in lithuania insurance for GSX-R 600 only 30 euro. I have in Ireland Lithuanian bike.

[Bino]

30 fuckin' euro :angry:

I feel so dirty...............

[Camaroo]

and Suzuki GSX-R 600 (2000) cost only 2500 euro :)

[Bino]

not far off the price of the insurance over here :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Technician]

You riding in Ireland on Lithuanian insurance Camaroo?

[Bino]

you're nabbed :P

[Camaroo]

yes

[Liamo]

right i've heard enough! get em boys! :devil: :hitler: :gunsmilie:

[Persius]

If you're staying less than 6 months in Ireland, it should be no problem driving with foreign tax and insurance. Even if here 10 or 11 months, you could probably claim that you have entered the country more than once, and your official residence is still the country where your bike is insured (e.g. Lithuania). However, if you're here for more than a year, and employment records (such as tax paid or PRSI) can prove this, then you could be in trouble if caught. This is cause you will then be considered officially resident in Ireland.

Of course you are not too likely to get caught. A friend of mine from the north was living and working in Dublin for years, driving his northern reg car. He was once approached by a man in the Liffey Valley car park, asking him whether he was working in Dublin. Not thinking, he answered yes, and the man then said that he was from customs and excise (or something similar) and that he should have a southern reg plate for his car, along with southern tax and insurance. He was meant to follow up on it, but I'm not sure what happened after that.

[charlieIRL]

Originally posted by Camaroo@Nov 24 2005, 09:44 PM
[b]and suzuki GSX-R 600 group is?
20872


Group 15 with CN

[Technician]

And grp 12 with AXA.

Man, thirty frickin quid :(

[Big H]

Sure fair play to the lad if he can get away with it. I was at a rally in Tipp a couple of months back and I counted 4 (without looking too hard) either Latvian or Lithuanian reg'd bikes ranging from a Bandit 12, SV1000, Pre '00 Blade and an old GT550.....

[charlieIRL]

Originally posted by Big H@Nov 25 2005, 02:09 PM
[b]Sure fair play to the lad if he can get away with it. I was at a rally in Tipp a couple of months back and I counted 4 (without looking too hard) either Latvian or Lithuanian reg'd bikes ranging from a Bandit 12, SV1000, Pre '00 Blade and an old GT550.....
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there's about 20 Lithuanian cars in Athlone for about 12 months now and no sign of them to be re-reg'd

[Camaroo]

yes i know about 6 monts, the bike is on my girlfriend`s name and she arrive in Ireland today (first time)

[Persius]

Originally posted by Camaroo@Nov 25 2005, 05:43 PM
[b]yes i know about 6 monts, the bike is on my girlfriend`s name and she arrive in Ireland today (first time)
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Nice one. I'd keep the Lithuanian plate as long as you can if I were you. I presume you still have an address in Lithuania. Just in case you're ever in an accident (god willing you won't be), then your insurance will still be valid as long as you can convince the Lithuanian insurance company that you're still resident there.

I'm currently living in Germany. If I were to come back to Ireland in the near future, I'd try to keep the German reg as long as possible too. Hopefully when I do transfer to Irish insurance, I'll have built up a bit of an NCB.

[Camaroo]

lithuanian insurance is covering in Ireland,i have "green card"(insurance). so he`s LEGAL

[Camaroo]

in Lithuania is about 20 insurance company...

[Persius]

I certainly don't know the ins and outs of Lithuanian insurance contracts :wink1:

I'm living in Germany, and also have a green card from a German insurance company, insuring me throughout the EU, and some other countries as well (such as Ukraine, Turkey and Iran if I remember correctly). However AFAIK, this is only valid so long as I remain a resident of Germany.

So technically, the insurance MIGHT no longer be valid if you no longer have resident status in the country of insurance. However proving that your not a resident is pretty difficult. Especially as you come from that country and probably have family there.

It would probably be more difficult for me to convince Irish Gardai that I am a resident of Germany if I was back in Ireland for over 6 months as I'm Irish. But in your case, I reckon you'll be fine (but I'm not a lawyer, so this isn't a legal opinion :shades: )

[Technician]

Bingo. What the Lithuanian insurance company doesn't know won't hurt it, eh? :kwasny:

[Doolittle]

An amended list for AON which is reasonably correct up to group 10

Insurance Group 4

Honda VTR 250

Insurance Group 5

Honda Bros 400
Honda CBR 250 250R
Honda Flat Tracker
Suzuki GSX 400
Most Factory Restricted Bikes (e.g. Suzuki Bandit)
Yamaha XVS 400 DRAGSTAR

Insurance Group 6

Some factory restricted bikes (e.g. off-road capable and some restricted sport b)
Honda Shadow 750
Honda Transalp 400
Honda XL 250
Honda Hornet 250
Kawasaki VN1500
Kawasaki VN1600 Classic
Kawsaki VN2000
Suzuki GS500E
Yamaha Virago 400
Yamaha XT 400

Insurance Group 7

Honda Deauville 650
Honda Dominator 650
Kawasaki EN500
Kawasaki VN800 Classic
Kawasaki VN1600 Mean Streak
Yamaha TTR 250

Insurance Group 8

BMW F650
Honda Africa Twin 750
Honda GL 1500
Honda CB400 Super Four
Honda CBR400RR
Honda Transalp 650
Honda NC30 VFR400R
Honda VT 1100
Kawasaki ER-5
Kawasaki ZXR400L
Suzuki DRZ 400
Suzuki Intruder 1400


Insurance Group 9

Aprilla Pegaso 650
BMW R 1150 R
BMW R 1150 RT
Honda CB500
Honda ST 1100

Insurance Group 10

Honda CB1000 Super Four
Honda X4
Honda XL 1000 (Varadero)
Kawasaki Z750
Kawasaki
Suzuki Bandit 600
Suzuki SV650
Yamaha Fazer 400

Insurance Group 11

Aprilla Caponord
Aprilla RST1000 Futura
BMW R1100S
Honda CBR600F
Honda VFR 800
Kawasaki KLV 1000
Suzuki RF900
Yamaha XJR 1300

Insurance Group 12

Aprilla RSV 1000 ®
Aprilla Tuono 1200
Kawasaki Z1000
Kawasaki ZX6R
Kawasaki ZX9R
Suzuki GSF 1200N
Yamaha FZR 750
Yamaha YZF 1200R





Please post additions/amendments. Thought it would be handy to have a list which includes older bikes and imports, as not listed in BBG